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Author Topic: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU  (Read 7419 times)

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2015, 08:56:37 am »
The next small steps....

Cabling and rails picked out
Glazing added
Buffers added (Thanks Bernard)
Holes drilled for windscreen wipers (!)

That closest windscreen looks a bit sticky-outy on this macro shot - may have to redo it.



Its all fearfully slow; but approaching the crucial bit - decal application!

Hoping to use N Gauge Society Gresley bogies - but this is a bit of a sticking point as they are AWOL; may have to wait for a new production run.

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2016, 06:33:04 pm »


Some progress today with @PostModN66 and his Class 304. Greenmax power unit installed and test run.

http://youtu.be/moeys7f5gns

Apologies for the quality, thus is the High Definition upload choice result from YouTube.

Unit still needs side and under frame details adding, and some new bogies. NGS Gresleys if they get them in stock before the end of the next millennium, and some scratchbuilt power car bogie sides.

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2016, 09:23:49 pm »
Thanks for that - instantly recognizable front end :)

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2017, 12:46:49 pm »
Looking good.  Did you ever get to finish the unit?

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2017, 02:41:51 pm »
Looking good.  Did you ever get to finish the unit?

It's still in this state!  The sticking point has been the sides.  The transfers that came with the original kit - the white ones that go underneath - fell apart when they were put in water. I have had a brief discussion with Adam Warr about vinyls, but I haven't pursued it; the 325 was the priority.

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2017, 05:22:09 pm »
Thats a shame.

Yes the 2 layer transfer system was the only option available at the time prior to vinyls.  When I did my vinyls I had a full time business which took up a lot of my time and never got round to printing vinyls for the 308 unfortunately, although I did do the designs for them.  Hopefully Adam can get some done for you if you message him?

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2017, 01:57:38 pm »
Looking good.  Did you ever get to finish the unit?

It's still in this state!  The sticking point has been the sides.  The transfers that came with the original kit - the white ones that go underneath - fell apart when they were put in water. I have had a brief discussion with Adam Warr about vinyls, but I haven't pursued it; the 325 was the priority.

cheers

Jon  :)

Adam does class 304 sides now, id drop him an email etc

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2017, 03:39:11 pm »
At last a bit of progress on the 323 due to @cooper coming round and getting stuck in (thanks Neal).  The etched ends are on, quite a bit of filling and fettling having occurred and the yellow sprayed onto the ends, at which point it has started to look somewhat like the prototype



The end in the middle of the shot looks a slightly better shape to me.   The magnification reveals a bit of a rough edge to the window rebate, but it doesn't look quite as bad in real life.

My preferred Fiat Broom Yellow was used for the ends and I have got a can of Rover "Hurricane Grey" for the valences.

304 in abeyance at least until the 323 is done.

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2017, 05:29:03 pm »
They’re looking good now they’ve had a bit of filler and a coat of paint!

The 304 also still needs Gresley bogies which are awaiting the NGS bogie hiatus to be resolved. It will also need the power bogies scratching up as they are plate frame bogies with a thousand rivets...
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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2017, 06:24:08 pm »
Hi,
Looks a lot better .

Rebogies do the Dapol ones suit?  And yes the power bogies will be fun - ideal 3d print and casting I would think. 
following with interest as I have the 3D print 323 and and a set of etches tucked away.

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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2017, 07:01:25 pm »
Hi Robert,

I guess you are referring to the 304 re: bogie....I haven't investigated the Dapol bogies as I keep hoping the N Gauge society will resume manufacture!   As far as the power car goes, I was intending to use the "plateback" bogies from NGS - not a true scale solution but hopefully would give the same kind of effect.  At least it might be a simple stop gap.

I have thought about a 3D print of the 323 but the paint scheme is the sticking point for me; all the feasible liveries are fairly intricate and probably beyond my capabilities.

Cheers Jon  :)
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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2018, 07:33:43 pm »
A bit more 323 progress last week. Two underframes scratched up and some black paint to start to bring the ‘face’ of the unit alive.





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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2018, 05:32:02 pm »
Spent this afternoon at Jon’s pushing on with the 323 whilst he tried to repair a couple of my loco chassis. He had success with the Lifelike GP40 chassis that is going under the class 85 and is now running very sweetly but I fear for his sanity whilst trying to get my Farish 50 to work!

Here is one side of the 323 center car with underframes detail added. It’s all a bit approximate as I’m working from photos taken at an angle. Only one side so far because I’m still trying to find a decent picture of the other side!



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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2018, 06:59:05 pm »
Very nice work Neal - especially the transformer!  :thankyousign:

cheers Jon  :)
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Re: Help with building a 323 and a 304 EMU
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2018, 07:36:33 pm »
You know you've got a good mate when he works on your project harder than you do.  @Cooper has finished the under frame detailing on the power car of my 323, which not only involved modelling skill but original research ; going out and capturing one in the wild to photograph!

Take a look at this attention to detail:



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