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Many of you may remember Peter Charles Fagg, a true gentleman of a forum member whose posts usually began with the words 'Friends.......'
Sadly in 2016 Peter passed away but, being the sort of chap he was, he left a sum of money for use by the forum and it has been decided to hold a competition with 2 maroon MK1 coaches as a prize. Not just any old MK1s, though. These have been 'branded' with the wording........

Peter Charles Fagg – Man of Kent

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/264-300418105015-64778974.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/64/264-300418105015-647781511.jpeg)

It has been decided to hold an annual photographic competition in Peter's memory as we feel Peter's enthusiasm for railway modelling and photos of such would be appreciated by him.

And so, for your delectation.....................


Competition Rules

Full names/postal addresses of entrants must be submitted to Newportnobby by PM only and will be used on a 'first come, first served' basis. 2 coaches will be sent to the first entrant.

Once that entrant has taken and submitted his photograph to the 'PCF Comp' Gallery he/she is then responsible for forwarding the coaches to the next person (name & address will be supplied by PM from Newportnobby). Note please that 2nd class signed for post must be used and the Certificate of Posting Reference Number PM'd to Newportnobby.

Please ensure the coach is sent forward within 2 weeks of you receiving it!

Any damage to the coaches must be reported by the new recipient at the time of receipt.

Should 2 (or more) entrants be close enough to hand deliver the coaches to the next entrant, the original next in line will be requested to defer by PM.

Only one photograph per entrant will be accepted so please ensure you are happy with your entry before you post it to the Gallery. The photograph must be entitled with the entrant's (forum) name.

The closing date for entries will depend on the number of entrants received.

The Judges' decision will be final, and the winner of the competition will receive both coaches as a prize.

Should you have any questions please PM Malc and/or DaveG

Good luck and happy shooting

I'm in!

Quote from: Bealman on May 01, 2018, 11:42:41 AM
I'm in!

Wot part of Line 1 of the competition rules did you fail to grasp, sirrah? :P ;D

Not sure.... can't see anything about mods not joining in, but I will step down

I just thought it was great. All forum members held Peter in high regard.

Living here, I have an unfair time advantage.

It's open!  :beers:

There's nothing about Mods not being able to enter :no:

This is the bit I was drawing your attention to...................

Quote from: Newportnobby on May 01, 2018, 11:31:34 AM

Full names/postal addresses of entrants must be submitted to Newportnobby by PM only

It's just the distance/time/risk involved in posting to/from the antipodes, George. We're not picking on you. Honest 😇

We aren't? :confused2: :-X

Quote from: Malc on May 01, 2018, 11:57:43 AM
It's just the distance/time/risk involved in posting to/from the antipodes, George. We're not picking on you. Honest 😇

Perfect opportunity for the mods to show us the plan.

NewportNobby can take his photo, send it to Bealman, who then takes his photo and then sends it back to these shores.

Sometimes I just amaze myself with my brilliance.

:whistle:

What a brilliant way to remember Peter, I'm sure he'll be watching on with interest. If he has any time to do so that is, what with no doubt having his dream layout "up there".

I was only thinking of him the other day and them this comes along. It must be a sign!!!

"Man of Kent"... love it. Well done to all concerned.

This is similar to something we did on the G scale forum I follow:   a wagon was posted around the members, each took photo(s) of it on their garden line and added a small inscription.  It traveled round the globe and is probably still going last I heard?

Thats a really nice idea and Im sure as already said Peter would be so pleased that so many members remember him.,he was one of a kind , a perfect gentleman ,  and I really wish I could take part in this but as everyone on here knows I have no chance of putting a photo on a PM  and sending it The only way I can is to get one of my family to help me , and at the moment thats a bit awkward they are all so busy .
But I wish everyone the best of luck and look forward to seeing the photos that people send in .
Im allso sure Peter has built the Perfect N gauge layout in the biggest club there can be .
Bob Tidbury

 :thankyousign: Very well done to all concerned with coming up with this. It's a really nice way to commemorate a really nice person.

The posts I see on this thread already are an indicator of the class of the membership.  I, for one, am proud to be a small part of it.

Regards, Allan.....

A great idea in memory of a true gentleman.

Note please a small amendment to the Competition Rules in that when an entrant posts the coaches off to the next recipient using 2nd class signed for mail, could they please PM me with the Certificate of Posting reference number? Many thanks.

Quote from: Zogbert Splod on May 01, 2018, 07:19:27 PM
:thankyousign: Very well done to all concerned with coming up with this. It's a really nice way to commemorate a really nice person.

The posts I see on this thread already are an indicator of the class of the membership.  I, for one, am proud to be a small part of it.

Regards, Allan.....

I totally agree with Allans sentiments. I only knew Peter for a relatively brief period of time and only through his posts, but he came across as a true gentleman. This is a fitting tribute to the man.  :thumbsup:

I agree that this is splendid idea and a perfect way to remember Peter.

I don't feel I would be able to produce anything worthy of the man, but good luck to all entrants and I hope we see some brilliant photos.

Cheers,

Chris

Great idea, I am sure Peter would approve. I look forward to pics from the tour :camera:

I should know this, but why was Peter a 'Man of Kent' rather than a 'Kentish Man'...

Hi NPN,

Fantastic idea and a great tribute to a great man.

Now, do you think he'd mind if the coaches came over to France on the trainferry? I've got a Belgian loco for the pic if that's a better option.

I miss him.

weave.

of course if an Antipodean did win, maybe the coaches could do the rounds of layouts down under before returning back to blighty. A bit like a royal visit.

so go for it @Bealman (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=255) George.

A lovely way to remember the perfect gentleman that Peter was and sadly missed.

A very interesting way to run a competition and to honour Peter. I never met Peter and only knew him by his posts, but he did come across as a genuinely nice person and his loss is the world's loss. I would very much like to participate in the comp, but I'm afraid that postal costs between Oz and the UK will preclude that. If I happened to become a recipient of the coaches, I don't think the previous recipient would be happy in having to spend 10 pounds sending them to Australia.

Webbo

I'd just like to set the record straight and say the competition originated with Malc and DaveG who were more personally involved with Peter and much of the effort gone into it has been theirs. I'm only helping out in an 'admin' sort of role as, being a Mod, I spend more time on the forum and also, being a single chap, have more time anyway. I met Peter once at TINGS and recognised him as a true gent with a great sense of humour and, even when he was at his most ill, he was sending me encouraging messages after my by pass operation. As such, I'm just happy to help out in any way I can.
There is no set of rules for your photo so if you don't have a layout or diorama to display the coaches on don't let it stop you entering. Who knows, you may have something even more unusual you could pose them on!

Well said, Mick.  :thumbsup:

Coaches arrived. They look stunning. Let's see if I can get a photo that does justice to the great man!

Just a taster of what the coaches look like on a (nearly finished) layout.

nice idea to do this!


Tim

Excellent idea to honour a lovely man. He would be so pleased. As my layout is no where near ready, I will register for the competition later. Will look forward to seeing some great pics.

:thumbsup:

You don't necessarily have to have a layout, @dellboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6240) . In all the times we went to see Peter, he only managed to get a loco around his layout on one occasion. So, a photo on whatever part of your layout is done would be fine.

Excuse my ignorance, but was Peter a regular on the exhibition circuit in some capacity?

Looking at his photograph, he seems extraordinarily familiar, but I can't place why.

'Friends...'

I've just spotted this and I have to declare a small tear ran down my cheek. I never met Peter either but I did have the privelege of being the NGF member who finally posted the NGF coach to him on the coach tour of 2016. Id had the coach on Northallerton and a couple of other North East layouts at our exhibition back in 2016. Peter was very ill at that time but was always a gentleman, as others have said, and he was very pleased to receive the coach.
Two years on and I can only say what a fitting tribute it is to Peter, I'm sure he would be delighted.

Is there a way we can sort of turn the competition into a coach tour too, so that those of us who have exhibition layouts can run the coaches for other members to see at echibitions? I would love to be in the competeion but if its possible, not recieve the coaches till mid July?
(I'm in btw)

Cheers
Kirky

Quote from: Nick on May 10, 2018, 08:20:40 AM
Excuse my ignorance, but was Peter a regular on the exhibition circuit in some capacity?

Looking at his photograph, he seems extraordinarily familiar, but I can't place why.

Peter was not involved on the exhibition circuit but had visited TINGS and his photo was his forum avatar, so maybe that's where you recall him from.

Quote from: kirky on May 10, 2018, 09:12:52 AM


Is there a way we can sort of turn the competition into a coach tour too, so that those of us who have exhibition layouts can run the coaches for other members to see at echibitions? I would love to be in the competition but if its possible, not receive the coaches till mid July?
(I'm in btw)

Cheers
Kirky

Thanks for the kind words, Kirky. I'm sure Peter would much prefer this to be a bit of fun rather than a very serious photo comp so anyone showing layouts could enter providing they send in a photo to be judged. I would need to know when the show would be as I may have to juggle the posting sequence to ensure they have the coaches to hand. To anyone else I would say don't think you need the best layout in the world to enter. A simple diorama would suffice e.g. a small length of track with a bit of scenery and Robert's your mother's brother ;D

Quote from: Newportnobby on May 10, 2018, 09:48:33 AM
Peter was not involved on the exhibition circuit but had visited TINGS and his photo was his forum avatar, so maybe that's where you recall him from.

Thanks. It must be his avatar. I can't imagine I'd remember a fellow show attendee unless we were constantly bumping into each other. Literally.

The strange thing is that my wife recognised his photograph as well. We were both confidently expecting someone to say: "Ah, yes, he ran XYZ Junction for forty years, man & boy!"

Only so many facial types, I suppose.

I would say "Once met, never forgotten"
The one time I saw Peter at TINGS he was sporting a wide brimmed hat (of the type generally seen with corks hanging all round in parodies of Aussies), a pair of baggy khaki shorts and a huge pair of brown brogues. I know he was wearing more but those are the things that, for some reason, have stuck in my memory!

Quote from: Malc on May 09, 2018, 06:21:40 PM
You don't necessarily have to have a layout, @dellboy (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=6240) . In all the times we went to see Peter, he only managed to get a loco around his layout on one occasion. So, a photo on whatever part of your layout is done would be fine.

Very true Malc. I will register my interest later, when I return from a holiday scheduled in June.
:thumbsup:

As Mick says, Peter was not a n gauge exhibitor, but he was an exhibitor on the wood turning circuit. He also did tool reviews for Practical Woodturning.
Again , as Mick says, those baggy shorts, brown brogues and white fedora certainly made him stand out.
He was a good friend and I was very sad to see him at the end. He desperately wanted to take part in the coach tour, but didn't have the strength to get down the garden to his layout. I ended up posting it on.

If the coach could be sent to Australia at some point, I'm sure that bealman and I could organise a meet-up of some sort to hand it on, or photograph it on a layour or something. But obviously, it is quicker and easier for it to make the UK rounds first!

Hi,

Picture taken and uploaded, but here's a short video of the coaches running on the Yorkshire Area Groups Guys Cuttings.

https://youtu.be/LwrVdoontf0

Cheers, Mark.

Here is my entry ( not a winner! )

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/941-150718134535-67451617.jpeg)

Coaches in post monday
@Newportnobby (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264)

Can you put a copy in the 'PCF Competition' Gallery please?
:thankyousign:

Quote from: Railwaygun on July 15, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
Here is my entry ( not a winner! )

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/941-150718134535-67451617.jpeg)

Coaches in post monday

Like the dazzle on the loco.

Hi all,

Have done my photo but don't know how to get it onto the PCF competition gallery. I could get it onto one of my posts but this all seems slightly different.

Complete computer numpty as you know so, should I do that and then someone could move it to where it's supposed to be?

Any help appreciated. I upload pictures from 'my pictures' Windows 7 if that helps.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Ps Maybe put here although that's obviously not the right thing to do.

To post to PCF gallery all you need to do is open the reply window select upload image and the drop down menu for select category gives the option to upload to the PCF gallery, I hope this helps.

Hello Di,

I think I know what you mean  :worried: but if the pic shows up here, sorry and I can try again.

Cheers  weave  :beers:

Think I've done it. Thank you.  :beers:

edit. Just looked at it and have done it twice  :doh:. but the recent one has a little description. Tried to delete the earlier one but it wont let me.

Anyway it's in the gallery.

Cheers weave  :beers:

@weave (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=735) PM sent but if it won't let you delete the earlier one just drop me a reply and I'll do it :thumbsup:

Hi Mick,

PM sent re deleting and postage forwarding.

Cheers weave  :beers:

Here is my entry to the competition; Peter Charles Fagg visits Northallerton, just as the RHTT passes beneath him.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/67/492-060818174402.jpeg)

Cheers
Kirky

Nice one Kirky and behind a Deltic too.   :thumbsup:

Evening all,

The coaches arrived over the weekend and are shown here departing Wenlock behind one of the Panniers.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/4-150818231705.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=68176)

Cheers

Ollie

:NGaugersRule:

Cool!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

While browsing on YouTube, I found some of Peter's videos. @daveg (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1087) and I went to see him about 3 years ago and I managed to sort out a short on his layout. After we had gone, he made this video. Unfortunately, the next time we went to see him, he had reorganised everything and couldn't run anything. He said from the outset that he wasn't too interested in scenic stuff. This video says it all. So if you are thinking of entering the competition, take some inspiration from Peter's video.
https://youtu.be/N0NeXA1V5f4 (https://youtu.be/N0NeXA1V5f4)

Thanks @Malc (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=497).

Shame Peter didn't crack on with that plan, it would have been quite interesting.

I remember when he first started. He mentioned his lack of interest in scenic stuff, then did what you see on the vid!

Brilliant chap!

Dave G

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/68/1490-040918140148.jpeg)

Best I can do given the lack of scenery on the train set :D

That is not a bad picture to say there is no scenery, it looks like fog has descended on a city.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: tutenkhamunsleeping on September 04, 2018, 03:22:53 PM
Best I can do given the lack of scenery on the train set :D

:o   :goggleeyes:  :o
I'm sorry, we don't do 'train sets' here. 'Model railways' only, please. Any further infringements and I shall report you to the moderators...   ;)

Cheers,

Chris

The coaches will now be heading off to the last entrant in the competition so if there are any late entries please PM me with your details. Note all entrants pay the £3.45 2nd class signed for postage to pass them on afterwards. Small price to pay for a couple of maroon MK1s emblazoned with a memory of Peter.

Quote from: Malc on August 20, 2018, 03:38:23 PM
While browsing on YouTube, I found some of Peter's videos. @daveg (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1087) and I went to see him about 3 years ago and I managed to sort out a short on his layout. After we had gone, he made this video. Unfortunately, the next time we went to see him, he had reorganised everything and couldn't run anything. He said from the outset that he wasn't too interested in scenic stuff. This video says it all. So if you are thinking of entering the competition, take some inspiration from Peter's video.
https://youtu.be/N0NeXA1V5f4 (https://youtu.be/N0NeXA1V5f4)

Thanks for reposting that video, Malc. I remember getting dizzy the first time I  saw it!  :beers:

Good afternoon all,

Sadly 3 weeks ago today I said farewell to my father for the very last time as we left Colchester General Hospital having removed life support for my father after he sadly suffered a Cardiac Arrest the previous Wednesday.

My father was an inspiration to me and always encouraged my modelling and transport interests and I will sorely miss him, not only because of his encouragement, but as he also took me to many exhibitions and operated alongside me, so many of you will have seen or met him at shows I am sure.

To bring this back round to the competition, I received the Peter Charles Fagg memorial coaches this week in readiness, for my exhibition appearance with Midsummer End this weekend in Blackpool.  Sadly, due to circumstances, I had to pull out of the exhibition as I am sure you will understand, however, I am still appearing with Empress Road Shed and Lakeview and Haveawatch Railway next weekend at Bury St Edmunds exhibition, and the following weekend at the Dapol Collectors Club day.  As such, please come along and have a look at the coaches running on Lakeview, or on display in Empress Road Shed during both events.

It's been sad to have these coaches at such a uniquely ironic time as we arrange and prepare to say our final farewells to my father, Alan Hughes, at his funeral on 25th September, however, I have been up this afternoon running the coaches on Lakeview and Havewatch Railway and also on my home layout "Rhoswiel Way" where Flying Scotsman hauled the Peter Charles Fagg pullman special.



For my entry to the competition, I have chosen a scenic photograph from Lakeview and Havewatch Railway, one of my father's favourite layouts that I've built and exhibited.  Here the coaches form a special hauled by recently steamed Terrier, "Freshwater".

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/69/4694-150918155633.jpeg)

I hope to see a few of you at Bury St Edmunds show, and Dapol collectors club day and wish every the very best of luck with the competition.

Kind Regards

Steven Hughes
AKA Midsummer End.

we all send our thoughts, prayers and condolences to you and the family at this time and look forward to seeing progress when your ready

Thank you for sharing your very poignant story with us. Sorry for your trouble, as the Irish say. I can't think of a more fitting tribute to either PCF or your father than your photo - it is a fabulous layout and a perfect setting for the coaches.

Best wishes for your upcoming exhibitions.

Kind regards,

Chris

I've just been reading through this thread... I'm sure Peter would be proud of you all, and pleased and touched that you've all welcomed "him" as a guest on your railways, in all their varying styles and periods, in all your differing and sometimes difficult circumstances. It feels like he's on a mini-world tour despite no longer being with us. I bet he'll be loving it from up there.

Top notch work, everyone involved.

Well, after much cogitation and pulling of whiskers, @daveg (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1087) and I sorted through the entries and have come up with a winner. The standard of entries was very good and so we have 3 winners. The first prize of the 2 coaches goes to @midsummerend (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4694)  for his excellent shot. Second place goes to @Ollie3440 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4) and third place goes to @ntpntpntp (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5885). Second and third place winners will get a voucher from Rails of Sheffield so they can buy something for their layout. Many thanks to everyone who entered and to Mick for doing the donkey work and chivvying everyone up.
If you haven't already done so, take a look at the competition gallery.

Quote from: Malc on September 17, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
Well, after much cogitation and pulling of whiskers, @daveg (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1087) and I sorted through the entries and have come up with a winner. The standard of entries was very good and so we have 3 winners. The first prize of the 2 coaches goes to @midsummerend (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4694)  for his excellent shot. Second place goes to @Ollie3440 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4) and third place goes to @ntpntpntp (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5885). Second and third place winners will get a voucher from Rails of Sheffield so they can buy something for their layout. Many thanks to everyone who entered and to Mick for doing the donkey work and chivvying everyone up.
If you haven't already done so, take a look at the competition gallery.

Wow. I am truly honoured to have been chosen as first place. The coaches will see regular outings on various exhibitions I am at so be sure to look out for them.

Thanks

Steven

Congratulations Steven. That was a great winning entry.

Congrats everyone :beers:

This was my first time participating in one of these touring coaches things and I'm looking forward to the next one 8)

Well done to everyone who posted a photo, some wonderful scenes and a very well deserved winner.   I'm feel honoured to have been awarded 3rd place.

Many thanks indeed for the RoS voucher which arrived today.   I'm now heading off on a trawl through their web site....... :-)

Evening all,

Many thanks to all involved with this competition, to echo above i feel honoured for being voted 2nd place.

Likewise my Rails voucher arrived today...... and has swiftly gone toward some items for Wenlock's extension, thanks!!

Cheers,

Ollie

:NGaugersRule: