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Author Topic: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)  (Read 420746 times)

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4725 on: June 14, 2018, 11:39:02 am »
An inventory check has revealed that I have a second boxed, as good as new, Graham Farish by Bachmann 374-925 Mk1 SLSTP Coach Sleeping Car Second Class in BR Lined Maroon. (And without silver painted buffers, like my original one.) It's looking for a good home for 'through' running. If interested, please, PM me. Thanks.

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4726 on: June 14, 2018, 01:29:21 pm »
Now might be a good time to remind ourselves of some of the flourishing local companies who help support the railways and tourism in Cornwall and the West Country.

The "Castle Estates" is located at Trevelver Castle at the end of the goods only (private passengers have been known to be in conveyed in various four-wheeled rail vehicles and the recently upgraded track can now take short bogie vehicles) "Castle" branchline from Cant Cove, near Wadebridge Cornwall, and is involved in producing, processing and marketing a wide range of agricultural produce. Associated with it, but still an independent company, is the "Castle Brewery" (a founder member of the Alliance of West Country Breweries) which began as the castle's domestic brewery in medieval times. Another associated (the Trevelvers are minority shareholders), but independent, company is the "North Cornwall Pasty Co." of Penmayne (the terminus of the line from Wadebridge via Cant Cove).

There are close trading and marketing relationships with other companies in Cornwall. These include: the "Headland Brewery", Port Perran (another founder member of the Alliance of West Country Breweries); James & Son Ltd, Granite Merchants, Port Perran; and Messrs Prisk & Jones (Fruit & Vegetable Wholesalers), Trepol Bay. There are others, such as a timber merchants and sawmill company at Port Perran, and a wagon repairers at Trepol Bay. (I'm sure that the highly knowledgeable landlady of the "Cornish Arms", Port Perran, can supply the details.)

In Somerset, there is the "Creech Brewery" and "Sam's Cider" plus, in Dorset, "Gunnings Brewery", Britminster, which are also members of the Alliance of West Country Breweries which aims to reduce costs (buying in barley, etc.), improve marketing (inc. cross-distribution of products) and, generally, enhance products and competitiveness whilst maintaining independence in the face of Whitbread's 'umbrella' expansion into the Southwest!

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4727 on: June 14, 2018, 03:02:09 pm »
Fired up by Sylvia and Eli's infectious youthful enthusiasm, everyone is agreed that using giant Cornish Pasties, displayed at Paddington and Waterloo, is a great way to launch the 1961 Summer timetable (Monday, 19th June to Sunday, 10th September 1961) and promote tourism in Cornwall. Seeing a great promotional opportunity, other local companies wanted to get involved and meetings were held at both Trevelver Castle and the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay. Both BR SR and BR WR agreed that running special trains to Waterloo and Paddington, respectively, each including a pasty van, using coaches already made ready for Monday, 19th, would be an excellent initiative.

Two First Class only dining trains were agreed, both to arrive, in London, in time to be featured in the two London evening papers, (the "Evening News" and the "Evening Standard"), as well as the quality Sunday papers, (the "Observer" and the "Sunday Times"), on Saturday, 17th June. Sylvia, through her Fleet Street press contacts, would ensure maximum coverage.

The BR SR special would begin at Trepol Bay running through Wadebridge to Cant Cove and then Penmayne (to collect the bogie pasty van containing the pasties and exhibition equipment) before returning to Wadebridge where additional Second Class coaches would be added before departure to Waterloo; whilst the BR WR train would begin as two portions, one from Penmayne (with another bogie pasty van) and one from Truro calling at Port Perran with both portions combining at Bodmin Road for the fast run to Paddington.

Both trains, BR insisted, were to be formed of the latest BR Standard coaches. The SR train was to be formed of all BR SR Green liveried stock and would comprise BCK S21275, two FKs S13003 and S13086, together with an RFO S9 and an RMB S1849 from Trepol Bay; with FK S13143 being added at Penmayne. The livery for the BR WR train, however, proved to be more problematic with BR WR Chocolate & Cream coaches being, naturally, favoured over BR WR BR Lined Maroon ones. The problem, though, was finding enough spare Chocolate & Cream First Class coaches, in Cornwall, although new BR Lined Maroon FK W13127 is available.

The choice of locos. to haul the trains was also still to be decided although a Bulleid Light Pacific would be the most likely choice from Wadebridge to Waterloo and, probably, would work through from Penmayne whilst the preserved "Manor" would also work from Penmayne on the WR train, to Bodmin Road.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4728 on: June 14, 2018, 03:45:48 pm »
On Friday, 16th June, Sylvia and Eli will bring a select group of journalists and photographers down on the overnight sleeper from Paddington for a tour of North and West Cornwall in 'Seagull Coaches" luxury Bedford OB motor coach before departing on the two specials to London the next day. Unusually, an RMB, worked up the previous day, fully stocked with the best of local food and drink, will be included in the sleeper portion for Penmayne to ensure the guests are well-fed and lubricated.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4729 on: June 15, 2018, 11:32:10 am »
A local rail enthusiast, Edward Greet, spent an hour or two on Trepol Bay station this morning and noted that green liveried RFO (S9) is stabled in the bay platform along with an RMB (S1849).
Meanwhile a maroon liveried FK (numbered W13127) is also present in the yard.
It is thought that both vehicles will form parts of the dining specials working to Paddington and Waterloo tomorrow.
Edward is hoping to obtain further details of train movements later and perhaps some photographs.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4730 on: June 15, 2018, 01:38:39 pm »
A local rail enthusiast, Edward Greet, spent an hour or two on Trepol Bay station this morning and noted that green liveried RFO (S9) is stabled in the bay platform along with an RMB (S1849).
Meanwhile, a maroon liveried FK (numbered W13127) is also present in the yard.
It is thought that both vehicles will form parts of the dining specials working to Paddington and Waterloo tomorrow.
Edward is hoping to obtain further details of train movements later and perhaps some photographs.

Thank you, Martin, for this update. The RFO and RMB are, no doubt, being loaded up with local food and drink, especially, "Headland Ales" under the supervision of staff from the "Station Hotel", Trepol Bay, who will be staffing the two coaches.

At Cant Cove, a WR BR Lined Maroon RMB W1815 (fitted with Commonwealth bogies) was photographed in the goods bay platform being similarly loaded before travelling up to Paddington in an ECS working prior to working down, attached to an MK1 SLF Coach Sleeping Car First Class and a BR Standard BCK still in BR Crimson & Cream, in the Penmayne portion of the 11:50pm ex-Paddington Sleeper which stops at Bodmin Road 8:53 to 8:55am to detach. One of the St. Blazey, outshedded at Bodmin General, 4575s (not many 45xxs are still in BR service) will then take this portion on to Wadebridge, Cant Cove and Penmayne. After leaving the train at Cant Cove and enjoying a full English breakfast at "The Station Hotel", there, a "Seagull Coaches" luxury OB Bedford coach will then take the journalists and accompanying photographers on a tour of local beauty spots before joining one of the two special trains at Trepol Bay (BR SR) or Port Perran (BR WR).

The "Chelsea Girls", who all work in London, will join the Sleeper at Paddington and will, similarly return on one of the two specials. Sylvia, although accustomed to Waterloo and its overnight trains, thanks to her father, also knows Paddington well. Sylvia's 'beau', Jeremy Corentyn Cador, the dashing naval captain (a VERY frequent guest at Trevelver Castle and often to be found conversing in her father's study with Lord Trevelver and the Head Butler, for unknown reasons) has been able to arrange leave so that he can join and leave the trains at Plymouth.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4731 on: June 15, 2018, 09:00:02 pm »
As promsed a couple of shots of the stock for the two specials berthed at Trepol Bay as a pannier works through on a short pick up freight.
The maroon FK is expected to be worked down to Port Perran later this evening whilst the green RFO and RMB will form the first portion of the Waterloo special tomorrow. The loco selection however remains a mystery.




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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4732 on: June 15, 2018, 09:18:40 pm »
Another pair of great photos. I know there's a list somewhere but I must learn all these coach abbreviations.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4733 on: June 15, 2018, 09:22:39 pm »
Another pair of great photos. I know there's a list somewhere but I must learn all these coach abbreviations.
Ha.....I cheat..........I just take my cue from Chris even if it means I have to get the magnifier out to identify the carriages by their running numbers.  :D
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4734 on: June 15, 2018, 09:45:00 pm »
Another pair of great photos. I know there's a list somewhere but I must learn all these coach abbreviations.

No problem, Brian. RFO = Restaurant First Open, a standard First Open (FO) coach branded Restaurant (has no catering equipment, just tables and chairs); RMB = Restaurant Mini Buffet (has catering equipment), the kitchen end is, usually, marshalled next to an FO, with the seating part of the RMB used for Second Class passengers.

When more diners were expected a Restaurant Unclassified (RU) was, usually, marshalled inbetween an FO (next to the kitchen) and a SO (Second Open). BR SR did not have any RUs (they had other kitchen cars but these are not available RTR; I need to make up my kit Bulleid Restaurant Buffer pair plus make up some Maunsell Restaurant Kitchen cars as adapted by BR SR). I have mainly WR RUs: 374-116 E1926 (Maroon; B5 bogies), 374-116A W1915 (Maroon; B5 bogies), 374-117 W1902 (CH&C), 374-120 W1900 (CR&C). I think Martin has a WR CH&C RU, probably, W1902? The ER RU works with an ER RFO, 374-801 E3 (Maroon) on specials from the ER and Perthshire. 8-) The WR RUs work with 374-804 W7 (CH&C), 374-804A W8 (CR&C).

I have the following RMBs, (apart from the SR one which Martin and I both have): 374-101B W1816 (CH&C; I think Martin has this one, too), 374-107A   W1815 (CW; Maroon), and 374-102 E1871 (Maroon), plus 374-102B M1864 (Maroon), used on specials from their respective regions.

I have a lot of First Compartment Corridor coaches (FKs): 374-153 E13030 (Maroon), 374-153A E13245 (Maroon)   374-153B   M13070 (Maroon), 374-153C W13127 (dup: Martin), 374-161   E13333, 374-163 W13185 (C&C). The 3 ER ones form VIP specials from Perthshire!

FOs, being uncommon, are rarer: 374-816 M3140, 374-818 W3085 CH&C (Blue Riband). The LMR FO is used as an RFO.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4735 on: June 16, 2018, 09:28:37 am »
Early this morning the first portion of the Waterloo special departs Trepol Bay headed for Wadebridge behind a very clean Standard 5. The van contains supplies and will be detached at Wadebridge, along with the rear carriage.
The other two carriages, (RFO and RMB) will work up to Cant Cove and Penmayne before forming part of the main train to Waterloo later this morning.

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4736 on: June 16, 2018, 10:42:12 am »
Thank you, Martin, for another excellent photo. Cant Cove's photographer is still catching up on developing and printing his films.

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4737 on: June 16, 2018, 11:00:42 am »
The Z Class 0-8-0T No. 30956 has proved to be highly capable of taking the longer, heavier trains up the Castle Branch then bringing them, safely, back down, again.

Cant Cove's photographer took a series of photos. of the powerful tank loco. with one such train.

Three empty "Tube" wagons are at the front of the, now, empty train. (New drainage pipes having been delivered to the Castle, from a Somerset pipe works.)



Next, two Continental vans, one insulated then one refrigerated. (A major rock festival is going to be held in the Castle grounds and plenty of wine and fresh fruit will be provided for the guests.)



However, there will also be plenty of grilled sausages, tea, and coffee served, too!





It looks like Lady Penelope's famous pink U.S. roadster is on its way for its annual pre-Summer service.



Bringing up the rear is non-vacuum braked grey standard van and one of the SR 20-ton brake vans, usually, used on the steep descent to Trepol Bay harbour but equally suited to the steep "Castle branch". These last two vehicles will be among those returning to Trepol Bay.
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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4738 on: June 16, 2018, 12:25:35 pm »
It's Friday 16th June, 1961, and Cant Cove's station pilot No. 30956 (on loan from 72A Exmouth Junction until withdrawal by BR SR and purchase by the CLPG following a Heavy General Overhaul at Eastleigh Works) shunts the BR Lined Maroon WR (on loan from the LMR) SLF (Sleeping Car First Class) M2635 on Commonwealth bogies and RMB W1815 (also with Commonwealth bogies) into the goods bay platform so that the staff from "The Station Hotel" can prepare the First Class Sleeping Car and the Mini Buffet car ready to be taken Up to Paddington, via Bodmin Road in an ECS working, to collect the gentlemen of the press (journalists and photographers) who will travel down on the 11:50pm ex-Paddington Sleeper which stops at Bodmin Road 8:53 to 8:55am to detach the Penmayne portion.





Two estate cars can be seen used to ferry supplies to the two coaches from the nearby "The Station Hotel".

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Re: Cant Cove (and Penmayne)
« Reply #4739 on: June 16, 2018, 03:29:42 pm »
Can't image that there will be much demand for fresh fruit at a rock concert.  :beers:

 

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