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Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« on: October 31, 2017, 02:50:58 am »
 The bogies on one set of my GF passenger coaches foul on the bodies. These coaches have body-mounted couplers, which normally would be good.
However, by fitting a spacer between bogie and coach body lifts the couplers too high.
I am scared to take out the body-mounted couplers, as I cannot see how they can be removed.
Replacement bogies will solve the problem.

Thanks. ???

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2017, 07:52:29 am »
Which type of coach? where and how is it fouling?

If assembled correctly and there are no non-standard after purchase additions to the coach it should not foul on 9" radius or greater curves. Photo of the offending bogie would be useful to aid diagnosis.

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 03:12:28 am »
 The couplers come out easily, and each coach uses really tiny screws.

 Replaced  with coupler-mounted  bogies.

 Hey presto ! the set now runs perfectly, with the spacers needed.  :claphappy:

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 07:48:24 am »
The couplers come out easily, and each coach uses really tiny screws.

 Replaced  with coupler-mounted  bogies.

 Hey presto ! the set now runs perfectly, with the spacers needed.  :claphappy:
Good that you now have a working set, however it is unfortunate that it involved modifying the coaches. This means you have treated the symptoms, but we never really identified the underlying cause of the issues...

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 11:25:14 am »
I'm curious to know which GF coaches have body mounted couplers, I've never come across any. Which just goes to show you can always learn something new.

It's good to hear that you got them sorted out.

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 01:04:37 pm »
Can we have some pictures of the body mounted couplers on G/F coaches Ive  never seen any before and like Silly moo.would be I interested on which coaches they are.
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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 01:32:55 pm »
Can we have some pictures of the body mounted couplers on G/F coaches Ive  never seen any before..

Me neither.  Definitely not an aftermarket modification?
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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 08:02:38 pm »
I'm curious to know which GF coaches have body mounted couplers
Ive  never seen any before and like Silly moo.would be I interested on which coaches they are.
Me neither
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All new tooling since the Bachmann Take-over has couplings on body mounted swing links...
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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 08:20:57 pm »
All my coaches are old - like me  ;)

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2017, 09:30:42 am »
I bet your stock isnt as old as mine silly moo some of mine still.have the original.couplings with the drop loop and held in with s plastic pin.
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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2017, 02:11:52 pm »
All new tooling since the Bachmann Take-over has couplings on body mounted swing links...
Staniers
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Latest generation Mk1s
NGS Thompsons BGs
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Is it possible to buy these bogies to fit to earlier stock, please? 

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2017, 06:11:06 pm »
Is it possible to buy these bogies to fit to earlier stock, please?
No, they're not sold separately and if they were the mountings differ to earlier designs so no guarantee they would fit... Even if they were, I'm not sure why you would want to change the bogies for new ones would leave the coach with no couplings because the couplings are mounted on the body of the newer types...

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2017, 09:54:08 am »
Is it possible to buy these bogies to fit to earlier stock, please?
No, they're not sold separately and if they were the mountings differ to earlier designs so no guarantee they would fit... Even if they were, I'm not sure why you would want to change the bogies for new ones would leave the coach with no couplings because the couplings are mounted on the body of the newer types...

Thanks.  I guess that also rules out any coach kits I've seen which use Farish bogies ... if I want comparatively close couplings.  :'(

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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2017, 10:30:31 am »
Is it possible to buy these bogies to fit to earlier stock, please?
No, they're not sold separately and if they were the mountings differ to earlier designs so no guarantee they would fit... Even if they were, I'm not sure why you would want to change the bogies for new ones would leave the coach with no couplings because the couplings are mounted on the body of the newer types...

Thanks.  I guess that also rules out any coach kits I've seen which use Farish bogies ... if I want comparatively close couplings.  :'(

Replacing the standard Rapido couplings with "short shank" ones might help, unfortunately the only source I know of is Shapeways.
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Re: Re; Solving a GF coach problem
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2017, 02:32:25 pm »
The Dapol Rapido's are shorter than the Farish ones and are available from DCC Supplies.

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