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Author Topic: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door  (Read 3426 times)

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #75 on: October 26, 2017, 09:59:56 pm »
Seriously thinking of doing away with the fiddle yard and putting a double sided scenic section there instead.  Ais Gill one side and just a double track generic S&C scenic section behind, so it will be just a "roundy round" layout. 

Thought's please.

I have to admit that I'm increasingly not an enthusiast for large hidden fiddle yards, but I think most modellers like them. Often, they are not actually fiddle yards, more what our US chums call staging yards, holding complete trains ready to appear on the scenic layout.  My US 'N' scale layout has two large staging yards which means that more than half the area of the model is hidden.

I have been much influenced by the 'Wilbury' layout of late and intend to have two 'back loops' on my new layout.  Visible staging!   I accept that this limits the number of trains but I think I can live with that.  When not running, the train sits in a loop, stopped at a signal which is fairly prototypical.  Perhaps less so if stopped on the main line but, again, I can live with that.

For the S&C, one could have a version of the Blea Moor Loops to give visible staging.  Maybe a good compromise between a hidden fiddle yard and a straightforward oval.

With best wishes.

John
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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #76 on: October 26, 2017, 10:15:20 pm »
Seriously thinking of doing away with the fiddle yard and putting a double sided scenic section there instead.  Ais Gill one side and just a double track generic S&C scenic section behind, so it will be just a "roundy round" layout. 

Thought's please.

I have to admit that I'm increasingly not an enthusiast for large hidden fiddle yards, but I think most modellers like them. Often, they are not actually fiddle yards, more what our US chums call staging yards, holding complete trains ready to appear on the scenic layout.  My US 'N' scale layout has two large staging yards which means that more than half the area of the model is hidden.

I have been much influenced by the 'Wilbury' layout of late and intend to have two 'back loops' on my new layout.  Visible staging!   I accept that this limits the number of trains but I think I can live with that.  When not running, the train sits in a loop, stopped at a signal which is fairly prototypical.  Perhaps less so if stopped on the main line but, again, I can live with that.

For the S&C, one could have a version of the Blea Moor Loops to give visible staging.  Maybe a good compromise between a hidden fiddle yard and a straightforward oval.

With best wishes.

John

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #77 on: October 27, 2017, 02:35:39 am »
I think that John's idea in reply #75 above is a really good one. I too often get the feeling that hidden sidings or loops are a gross waste of modelling space.

Plus, as he says, you have a prototype there in the form of Blea Moor loops.

An excellent suggestion, John, and one I would go with if it was me.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #78 on: October 27, 2017, 09:07:41 am »
I think that John's idea in reply #75 above is a really good one. I too often get the feeling that hidden sidings or loops are a gross waste of modelling space.

Plus, as he says, you have a prototype there in the form of Blea Moor loops.

An excellent suggestion, John, and one I would go with if it was me.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I've also come to the same conclusion about fiddle yards and also, we spend all that money on loco's and rolling stock, then hide them away  :( :( :(  I love the idea of Blea Moor but as I have only 6ft x 30 ins to play with, pushing my luck me thinks  :P :P :P

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #79 on: October 27, 2017, 09:08:17 am »
Thank you very much, chaps, for your kind responses to my Blea Moor suggestion.  Although the idea of 'visible staging' is not new (especially in the USA), I was particularly influenced by the 'back loops' on 'Wilbury' (Railway Modeller (RM), December 2013) and the front loop on 'Bassenthwaite Lake' (RM April 2007).  Any credit rightly belongs to Richard Morris and Don Annison respectively.  Both are superb layouts and fascinating articles which I recommend highly.

With all best wishes.

John
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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2017, 09:30:40 am »
Modeller's license... you could add an extra couple of loops!  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #81 on: November 03, 2017, 10:08:20 am »
I want some Black 5s :(

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2017, 10:58:47 pm »
Sorry not posted any progress on the layout but over the last two weeks I've been hospitalised twice, once for a DVT in my right leg and second after a bad fall a few days later after the same leg gave way and I headbutted the floor  :doh:.  I now have a lovely scar on my forehead and nose  :( :( :(

I've recently received some Woodland Scenics foam roadbed, so I'll recoup by working on the layout.  Great therapy  :D :D :D

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #83 on: November 12, 2017, 05:04:46 am »
Sorry to hear you have been in the wars. I have also decided against a fiddle yard in my next layout because of the cost of points. I will also be doing away with a backscene and will have scenery on both sides of the layout, because I really enjoy doing scenery,maybe we are starting a new trend in modelling.

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #84 on: November 12, 2017, 05:36:47 am »
Why didn't you put the foam roadbed down before you fell, then you would not have had your lovely scar  :doh:. Seriously though, I hope things are not serious.  :beers:
David.
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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #85 on: November 12, 2017, 06:31:35 am »
Presumably the beck flows through Ais Gill Scar :-[
With kind regards
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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #86 on: November 12, 2017, 08:03:40 am »
Wishing you a speedy recovery and look forward to more updates soon

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #87 on: November 12, 2017, 08:20:41 am »
Ditto. You have indeed been in the wars, mate. Best wishes for a full recovery.

Looking forward to layout developments!  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #88 on: November 12, 2017, 08:37:20 am »
Wishing you a speedy recovery.

Take care.

All the very best.

John
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Re: Ais Gill on a standard internal house door
« Reply #89 on: November 12, 2017, 09:52:01 am »
Continue the 'therapy' and get better soon, Jools

 

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