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Diamonds in the yard!
« on: June 02, 2017, 12:17:24 am »
Hi
I've always thought that track crossovers are a classic element of a North American layout.
Now I have an option to create one, although I don't have a reason for it in my head.
More info to follow on my layout options and thoughts but keen to get to understand the why's and wherefore of these in a real life yard area - or even to find out that really, there aren't any!
Thanks in advance
Donald
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Re: Yard crossovers
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2017, 08:58:03 am »
Hi Donald

I'm a bit confused by the term crossover. Do you mean crossing?

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Re: Yard crossovers
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2017, 09:02:32 am »
Must admit I assumed Donald was referring to a scissors crossover? 

Source: wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_switch#Crossover
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Re: Yard crossovers
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2017, 10:23:15 am »
I read it as an oxo crossing..... 90 degrees!
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Re: Yard crossovers
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2017, 06:37:45 pm »
I'm reading it as a crossing - sort of like 90 degrees, but really 20degrees!

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Re: Yard crossovers
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2017, 08:52:35 pm »
I assumed scissor crossing. Crikey, it's tense waiting for the answer.

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Re: Yard crossovers
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2017, 10:16:03 pm »
I'm reading it as a crossing - sort of like 90 degrees, but really 20degrees!

So... a 20 degree diamond crossing ?
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Re: Yard crossovers
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2017, 11:38:18 pm »
A diamond!
Now we're getting to it!
It's been a week of late nights and early mornings, none of them connected with fun.
That's my excuse anyway. See at the weekend, I'll get a plan and photo up to illustrate what I maybe mean...
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Re: Yard crossovers
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2017, 06:51:47 am »
The yard I work out of doesn't have any diamonds in the yard limits although it does have two slow speed limit diamonds right outside of the yard, the yard lead crosses over a double track branch before connecting to the mainline (the branch is connected to the yard by a different yard lead).

I can find pics if you need to see the layout of it.

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Re: Diamonds in the yard!
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2017, 08:08:24 am »
Thanks team - I've changed the thread title to be more appropriate...😇

Pictures of a yard with external diamonds would be very welcome - thanks!
In my case, I've started to create a new section of layout that is essentially just a 3 track fiddle yard, but I want to make it more interesting to operate, so I want to configure it as 3tracks coming from a single line and then coming back together to single line.
Top track to be a through route and lower two to store locos and/or boxcars etc.
Got some space for a little local industry maybe above the top through track, but thought I could/should run the spur from the centre storage/fiddle track , and avoid another switch on the through track by putting in a diamond.
I'll try to get off this phone and get a plan up later.
Donald

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Re: Diamonds in the yard!
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2017, 09:30:14 am »
Oh look, a photo of a mockup. Track laid loose to show what I'm trying to talk about. Not sure how to rotate picture- best views from right to left!
Donald



Edit - found the image rotator machine.
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Re: Diamonds in the yard!
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2017, 09:42:34 am »
You seem to have a mixture of set track and code 55 there?
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Re: Diamonds in the yard!
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2017, 09:44:59 am »
You seem to have a mixture of set track and code 55 there?
Yup - just laying out what's to hand for a looksee. That mixture works fine elsewhere anyway, but I'd look to code 55 everything.

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Re: Diamonds in the yard!
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2017, 03:53:33 pm »
here's an image kindly provided by intercity: (just copy/paste the BB code file under the photo when viewing it in the gallery)



pretty much shows what I am wanting to achieve, although in my case I'm looking purely to fancy the layout up, rather than solve an access problem.  I could simply move the switch location across to the other track in my world, but also in my world that track where I have shown the diamond will be the through track to the rest of the world, and will be the one track that can also accommodate x7 40ft boxcars, a caboose and a double header engine, so I wasn't wanting to have a set of switches on it.  (well really, I just want to have a diamond!)

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Re: Diamonds in the yard!
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2017, 10:06:41 pm »
well Ive eventually got the track laid in an operating style and wired it up and this is what Ive ended up with:







now I just need a reason for the space in the middle of the tracks!

Donald

 

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