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Author Topic: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea  (Read 5000 times)

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2016, 08:06:33 pm »

Get some modelling done

Station building being assembled
Goods shed next
Then station hotel

These can then be placed on track plan to work out spacing along with other buildings.

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2016, 08:08:51 pm »

Get some modelling done

Station building being assembled
Goods shed next
Then station hotel

These can then be placed on track plan to work out spacing along with other buildings.
Looking forward to the pictures of the buildings. Yet another Station Hotel to join the merry band on here.
It's you railway so build it as you want and run whatever you like. The only rule is - ENJOY :
My Layouts -
Port Perran:- Trepol Bay:-

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2016, 12:35:29 pm »
Looking forward to the pictures of the buildings. Yet another Station Hotel to join the merry band on here.

If you could name drop a couple of layouts with station hotels for how others have approached the station hotel I'd appreciate the inspiration

I'm currently considering using the Faller post office with some big chimneys added

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2016, 09:13:34 pm »
Mine (on Trepol Bay) is only half relief and I'm not entirely happy with the roof but it works for me.

It's to the right of the footbridge. I know it's a bit distant but you can probably see (just about) what it looks like. Serves fine ales by the Headland Brewery and Castle Brewery by the way.
It's you railway so build it as you want and run whatever you like. The only rule is - ENJOY :
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Port Perran:- Trepol Bay:-

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2016, 05:17:13 pm »
Mine (on Trepol Bay) is only half relief and I'm not entirely happy with the roof but it works for me.

It's to the right of the footbridge. I know it's a bit distant but you can probably see (just about) what it looks like. Serves fine ales by the Headland Brewery and Castle Brewery by the way.


I did have a look at your layout assuming you'd have a station hotel and did spot it but presumed it to be a large pub - sorry!

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2016, 08:22:02 pm »
Ah, large pub or small hotel.
Either fits the bill  :beers:
It's you railway so build it as you want and run whatever you like. The only rule is - ENJOY :
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Port Perran:- Trepol Bay:-

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2016, 10:51:51 am »

Mine is near the Station but has delusions of grandeur.

Actually it is a adapted Scalescenes Large station.


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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2016, 06:37:10 pm »

Mine is near the Station but has delusions of grandeur.

Actually it is a adapted Scalescenes Large station.

Perhaps there is a big national hotel chain lurking to take over all these hotels  :D :D
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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2016, 11:29:00 am »
I've started to look into the history of Milliedale on Sea in another thread (the layout build thread) here: http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=35646.0

This thread will continue as I tweak the track plan and finish building the boards and get track laid and point motors set up and working, once trains are running we'll move development of the scenery across there.

So, boards, track and spaghetti (wiring) etc will be in here, above the board will be in that topic, along with a potted history of my fictional little world :)

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2017, 12:17:35 pm »
I'm at a sticking point, I need to work out the raised track bed height before I can progress, for this I need to work out what the ground level on the baseboard should be.



I have a flat baseboard onto which everything will be built, the sea will be stuck to the board, the track will be raised up to 43.5mm above ground level based on the scalescenes arches kit
The beach will rise slightly towards the sea wall / prom with the pier going from prom level out over the beach
What height should the pink, raised ground level be to ensure the beach and prom look right without being too high as overhead height is limited in the room as I'm in the loft!
I've possibly not given enough detail so feel free to ask!

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2017, 02:17:13 pm »
Googling 'what height is the average seawall?' drew this Wickedpedia page but it does not give a height :doh:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawall

Without knowing average sea/tidal conditions my best guess would be 15-20ft high between sea level and any road beyond the seawall :hmmm:

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2017, 02:21:50 pm »
indeed, there is no fixed height, sea wall heights differ a lot from place to place, Scarborough for example has two bays each side of the headland, the north bay having the sea wall about my waist height (so 3ft) above the beach, south bay being lower, around 1.5-2ft

I'm set on Morcambe bay, somewhere a little south of the Lune

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2017, 05:27:53 pm »
If it's any help, have a look at this photo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hastings#/media/File:Bottle_Alley_Hastings.jpg

The road is at the level of the white railings where the guy is sitting on the bench.

Looks like 15+ feet to me but just a wild guess.

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2017, 07:55:28 am »
The answer is precisely "2 pieces of string..."

The next question is...  ;)

Reality is every one is different - just look at the resort nearest your supposed location and experiment until it looks right.

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Re: LMS by the seaside - Milliedale - on - sea
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2017, 08:08:39 am »
When it comes to model railways, I follow the old RM slogan:

For the average modeller.

Forget finescale dimensions, if it looks right, it is right.

I still admire the 2mm finescale modellers, by the way. I just don't have the time or patience to go down that route.  :thumbsup:
Vision over visibility. Bono, U2.

 

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