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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2013, 05:09:58 pm »
"Dutchkev" is working on a great little layout that fits nicely into this theme, called "Fingal Yard"

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=17230.msg171126#msg171126



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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2013, 10:12:40 pm »
Came across this link which covers the concept of small layouts. May help generally for guys starting out that don't have space

http://home.wanadoo.nl/reinoud.kaasschieter/railway/index.en.htm

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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2013, 09:48:08 am »
Hi,

Jon encouraged me to show my layout in this thread.  :thankyousign:
It is a very basic design that uses three points; two in the scenic section and one in the fiddle yard.
There is a SLT at the back which I simply had to include because the first British train I bought was a SWT class 170. The front is an inglenook design. The tracks are kept separate throughout although I guess they could easily be linked offstage.
Here is a crude first sketch from ages ago:


And this is what it looks like now:


And the fiddle yard:


I like the plan, it offers enough operational interest to keep you happy for a while (me, at least :claphappy:), its footprint is only 77cms x 22cms, it gave me the opportunity to test and improve my scenic skills and (that's the best part) it cost me next to nothing as I used track I had in astarters set years ago and tried to make as much as possible from household items.

Here's the link to my thread: http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=16429.msg162860#msg162860


All the best,
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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2013, 10:30:23 am »
Jon encouraged me to show my layout in this thread.  :thankyousign:

Thank you Michael  :thankyousign:

Great to have some layouts on this thread that are actually finished, not just ideas!  And it also fits well in that you used it as a learning project before moving on, which is what I would advocate.

Cheers  Jon  :)
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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2013, 11:32:20 pm »
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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2014, 09:35:51 am »
Jason "Silverfox" is working on a layout that fits nicely into this category.  Here is the link:

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=19201.0

And the plan, at the current iteration


Cheers  Jon  :)
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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2014, 11:40:11 am »
There's a lot to be said for these little layouts. They get you runnin' trains!

And doing shunting - problem solving!

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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2014, 01:13:17 pm »

The flasks are not indestructible and there are some fairly serious worries about how they would behave in certain situations such as a fire in a tunnel which could get hot enough to melt one from the evidence of the chunnel and other bad fires.

Alan


Forgive me if I am wrong, but I thought a little test with a 'Peak' and a couple of Mark 1s a few years ago showed that they to all intents and purposes were 'fit for purpose'...

Train test crash 1984 - nuclear flask test

As for more recent events, admittedly this adds to the equation, but surely because of the nature of the goods being transported this warrants more careful scheduling and routing to avoid potential 'hot spots'. No pun intended.
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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2014, 01:42:17 pm »
Trains are now faster and heavier. The big concern though is tunnel fires. They can get way hotter than anyone understood at the time the flasks were designed.

There have been other problems too including surface contamination but processes could be put in place to manage that

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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2015, 09:18:52 pm »
Thanks for this excellent thread.

I'm making my way from OO to N and this has some excellent ideas.

I think I'll have a crack at something based upon "Onemore Yard" if that's ok?

I'm intrigued to see what I can do to it as a "present day" layout! :)

Cheers,

Matt

P.S. If anyone can provide details on the points used etc, that would be very much appreciated!

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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2015, 09:57:28 pm »
Infact, I've given it a go!



That's using Peco Code 55 and I'm happy to share the xtrkcad files if anyone wants them.

I love shunting, so I've added a couple more bays to the station on the upper level and split off for a second fiddleyard at the back.

If I've got this right, then I should be able to run 3 DMUs on the upper levels all shnting in and out on computer control!

Cheers,

Matt

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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #57 on: May 31, 2015, 10:43:57 pm »
Hey Matt,

That's great!   The plan posted above used all code 80 points (for reasons I can't remember, maybe just to match with the one SetTrack hidden point) all the short radius L and R except for one "Y" point at the right hand end of the loop.  I could send you the AnyRail file...but it looks like you're ahead of the game with your xtrkcad version.

I would normally suggest using Wire-in-Tube point operation for a shunting layout like this - but if you are going to have computer control then obviously this won't work!

Good luck with it - keep us posted, and if you need any help......let us know!

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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2015, 09:15:37 am »
Thanks Jon,

I've got a lot of electronics left over from my previous attempts at layouts in OO so I'll be using them.

I'm a MERG member and so everything will be based on DCC with MERG CBus to feed the commands to the layout with JMRI and EnginerDriver to control the layout via my Android phone.

Cheers,

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Re: Suggested plans for a beginner
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2015, 06:48:53 pm »
Thanks Jon,

I've got a lot of electronics left over from my previous attempts at layouts in OO so I'll be using them.

I'm a MERG member and so everything will be based on DCC with MERG CBus to feed the commands to the layout with JMRI and EnginerDriver to control the layout via my Android phone.

Cheers,

Matt


Hi Matt,

I have a suggestion - if you are to be more ambitious about your top line, it might be worth taking up the suggestion that Rabs makes above - extending the top line in front of the fiddle yard, and putting it all on one board.  This would take it to roughly 5' 6" long.  This wouldn't be a problem for handling since the layout is still quite small and light (but if you intend to take it around you would have to check you could get it in your car).

This would simplify the DMU shunting, eliminating the kick-back and provide a longer length of travel for the DMUs before they reach the station.

It would look something like this:



I have used a Peco 3 way point in the fiddle yard to save a bit of space, but you could use two regular points of course.

What do you reckon?

Cheers Jon  :)

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