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Author Topic: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released  (Read 1323 times)

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Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« on: April 07, 2017, 05:12:37 pm »
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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 06:02:39 pm »
Now thats ugly

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 06:08:37 pm »
Shame they didn't bring out a "Little Joe" electric to go with it........... :D

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 08:04:56 pm »
Yikes  :o :o
Just one Pendolino, give it to me, a beautiful train, from Italy

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2017, 09:11:25 pm »
Now thats ugly


Matter of opinion, but the back end of most trains probably are and observation cars are rarely beautiful (you're supposed to be looking at the scenery).

The front would have had a three locomotive consist of  FP7's in an A-B-A configuration which would be an iconic arrangement for 1952 (scroll down to "Motive Power"):

http://www.katousa.com/N/Hiawatha/index.html

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 12:11:46 am »
Looks cool .igore thenzyzayrr

Looks cool, ignore the naysayers










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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 10:54:15 pm »
Now thats ugly

Yikes  :o :o

I feel personally insulted. ;)

But thankfully not everyone thinks so. From http://www.american-rails.com/olympian.html:
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it was Brook Stevens, who designed the celebrated Sky Top sleeper-lounge observations (perhaps the most distinctive and dramatic observation cars ever built) that created the Milwaukee Road’s Olympian Hiawatha.  The train featured passenger equipment (save for the cars purchased from Pullman) entirely home-built by the railroad’s own shop forces, which along with the beautiful Sky Top observations included cars such as the Super Domes, which allowed for full car-length, panoramic viewing.


Although the FP7 is a new locomotive from Kato, there is a more interesting option: A few years ago Life-Like produced Fairbanks-Morse "Erie-Builts", including a Milwaukee Road A-B-A set with Olympian Hiawatha lettering. Unfortunately, all versions of the Erie-Builts are very difficult to find, and the Milwaukee Road units will now be in even greater demand. I think the B-unit behind the FP7 in the above photo is also an Erie-Built with the large grill on the side.

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2017, 06:31:31 pm »
Well I think it is a beautiful train, I just wish I had the spare cash to buy one  :'(

Cheers John.

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2017, 12:07:15 am »
I agree. The entire consist will look rather special on a large American layout  (yes, Webbo, I'm thinking of you).

Evocative of a bygone age.
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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2017, 12:19:05 am »
I'll agree with John

The observation car looks pretty aggressive and in your face in its photo on the advertising brochure, but I'm sure it looks just fine in the model train. FP7s always look terrific and the colours of this train are striking.

Just got your post George as I was typing the above. Am I tempted - yes. However, I already have a Kato Super Chief pulled by an FA and FB unit - for prototypical accuracy these should be F3 or F7 units. And I have a Canadian (name of the train) pulled by FP7s in HO so I'm well served already in the long sleek, aluminium passenger train department. However, my trains are silver and the orange and red of the Hiawatha do look spectacular.

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2017, 12:26:10 am »
I just think it's poor styling.  It looks like a bug head from a Bad si-fi film.

Now if you want classic design on the American railroad start with the Super Chief.

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2017, 11:32:39 am »
I just think it's poor styling.  It looks like a bug head from a Bad si-fi film.

Now if you want classic design on the American railroad start with the Super Chief.

As much as I like Warbonnets, and I can't think of a more iconic American railroad paint scheme, the wagons of the Santa Fe trains are just boring - stainless steel with black lettering, just like Burlington, Seaboard and dozens of others. :sleep: :sleep:

I prefer the full-colour designs of the Hiawatha, Daylight, PRR prewar-'Fleet of Modernism', B&O or UP. I also hope that Kato will later bring the Olympian Hiawatha in UP colours - I think they were repainted in 1958 (?) after UP had switched from Chicago & North Western to the Milwaukee Road for the east part of the City of LA/SF.


(Photo from http://passcarphotos.info/Indices/MILW1.htm - http://trainweb.org/hiawatha/marble3.jpg)



The Life-Like Erie-Builts were already released in 2002 (earlier than I remembered).
Brooklyn Locomotive Works still shows them on their website, although all sold out long ago. I thought they had Olympian Hiawatha lettering on the sides but they were made in a later livery without the lettering and the steel fluting as on the observation car. Still matching for the Kato set.

http://www.blwnscale.com/ll-erie-built.htm




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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2017, 07:39:43 am »
I lied in my post of a couple of days ago. In fact, my Super Chief is pulled by ALCO PA and PB units not the FA and FB units I mentioned in my post. This was a brain snap on my part. FAs were also ALCO diesels with a strong resemblance to the PA, but they had 4 axles instead of 6. The PAs and PBs did pull the Super Chief on occasion although the EMD F3s and F7s were more common in this role.

My model Canadian passenger cars are silver with a maroon stripe along each side embossed with Canadian Pacific in yellow. I think they look magnificent as does my Super Chief train especially with the Red warbonnets in front. Each to their own taste I suppose.

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2017, 02:11:30 pm »
If only I could justify it running in the Doggerland extension of BR, SNCF SNCB and DB systems.


Well of course I could, it would go perfectly with the odd Japanese train I run.

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Re: Kato Olympian Hiawatha released
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2017, 06:16:33 pm »
I think you have nailed the system there!
Top marks.
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