!!

Not Registered?

Welcome!  Please register to view all of the new posts and forum boards - some of which are hidden to guests.  After registering and gaining 10 posts you will be able to sell and buy items on our N'porium.

If you have any problems registering, then please check your spam filter before emailing us.  Hotmail users seem to find their emails in the Junk folder.


Thanks for reading,
The NGF Staff.

Author Topic: Parish End  (Read 2792 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2017, 07:15:59 pm »
Power supply not meaty enough? My servos used to twitch in unison on start up because there wasn't enough power to throw them all. Uprated power supply sorted it.

I've got an Ecos ESU, which I'd imagine would be meaty enough. I've got 11 points on the layout, though have only connected 10 (I think).
The layout is only 6' 6" x 2".
How do I check if the controller is meaty enough (or not)?  If it's not what do I use and how?
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

Online Innovationgame

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26531
  • Posts: 1013
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2017, 07:52:26 pm »
Each point receives a control signal from a DCC accessory decoder.  It may be built into the point or a separate decoder controlling several points.  In either case, the point will only change if it receives a pulse from the decoder.  The decoder responds to signals sent along the DCC bus.  This is in the form of a digital signature to identify the accessory and to indicate the direction of switching.  The controller may continually send signals or just send them on demand.  Obviously, I'm not familiar with your system, but the signals must be coming from a source, presumably the control unit.  I have attached a couple of PDFs which might help to explain.  Alternatively, they might completely confuse.
With kind regards
Laurence

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2017, 03:01:22 pm »
Each point receives a control signal from a DCC accessory decoder.  It may be built into the point or a separate decoder controlling several points.  In either case, the point will only change if it receives a pulse from the decoder.  The decoder responds to signals sent along the DCC bus.  This is in the form of a digital signature to identify the accessory and to indicate the direction of switching.  The controller may continually send signals or just send them on demand.  Obviously, I'm not familiar with your system, but the signals must be coming from a source, presumably the control unit.  I have attached a couple of PDFs which might help to explain.  Alternatively, they might completely confuse.

Thank you for the info.  Totally confused now.
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

Online Innovationgame

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26531
  • Posts: 1013
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2017, 03:30:09 pm »
Thank you for the info.  Totally confused now.
Sorry!  :sorrysign:
With kind regards
Laurence

Online njee20

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 22598
  • Posts: 2154
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2017, 06:25:35 pm »
I'd suggest with an Ecos it's not the problem, so you can probably disregard my comment!

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #50 on: May 03, 2017, 03:39:37 pm »
I finally got it sussed after a phone call to DCC Concepts and to Coastal Digital.  Some of the points had turned themselves to Self-centering.  Reset them and now there's no point movement upon power up.

Now . . I have a second question for all of you learned people out there:
I have a couple of points on the layout which if the loco approaches from the toe end, crosses over the points onto shall we say "normal" track, then all is well.  However, if the loco reverses back over said points, then I get a short.  I've checked the wiring and all appears to be OK.
Any ideas please?
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2017, 04:55:12 pm »
I've found out what the problem was as described in my previous post.  The back-to-back on my Farish Jinty is out.  I have little confidence in dismantling the loco to make the necessary adjustment.  My Parish Fairbourne and Class 5 work fine.  Any ideas or suggestions would be most welcome.

And so onto other updates with Parish End:

An exceptionally productive day today.
The vast majority of the track is laid and wired up.
All but two points are fitted and working.  I have two DCC Concepts Digital IP's that have given up the ghost - totally dead.  As they're still under warranty, they'll be returned for replacement.
After an awful long time, I have a layout, which to all intents and purposes is working.
The wiring under the board needs a good tidy up and the track needs a damned good clean.  One or two track joiners need a tweak, but "Hey" I'm a happy bunny.

Not too long now until I can get on doing the fun stuff: ballasting, scenery and planting buildings.  Oh, I almost forgot to add, running trains as well :-)
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

Online PLD

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1544
    • Hull Miniature Railway Society
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2017, 07:49:31 am »
I've found out what the problem was as described in my previous post.  The back-to-back on my Farish Jinty is out.  I have little confidence in dismantling the loco to make the necessary adjustment.
Depends which type it is...
If it's the old Poole design, these are more likely to be out but if under gauge (most common issue) and only a small discrepancy can usually be sorted by gently levering with a small screwdriver without dismantling.
If it is the new China design, it is more unusual for these to be out of gauge, and it does need more dismantling to correct without causing other issues...


Parish Fairbourne
Spill Chuckle???

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2017, 01:18:18 pm »
I've found out what the problem was as described in my previous post.  The back-to-back on my Farish Jinty is out.  I have little confidence in dismantling the loco to make the necessary adjustment.
Depends which type it is...
If it's the old Poole design, these are more likely to be out but if under gauge (most common issue) and only a small discrepancy can usually be sorted by gently levering with a small screwdriver without dismantling.
If it is the new China design, it is more unusual for these to be out of gauge, and it does need more dismantling to correct without causing other issues...


Parish Fairbourne



Spill Chuckle???

Hi PDL,

It's a new (6 month old) Farish Class 3F Jinty - Part Number 372-210.
Im not sure as to how:
A) I get the body off (if indeed I need to)
B) What I do once the body is off, what with the connecting rods etc. being attached etc.
C) Do I need to remove the wheels?  If so how?

Any help / ideas would be appreciated
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2017, 04:37:01 pm »
Eek!!



"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

Offline newportnobby

  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+53)
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • N Gauge Society Number: 21962
  • Posts: 25553
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2017, 04:55:04 pm »
Double eek! :goggleeyes:

Online daffy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26722
  • Posts: 992
  • Country: gb
  • Learning everyday
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2017, 05:20:56 pm »
What flavour sauce do you prefer with all that spaghetti? :hmmm:
Mike

Sufferin' succotash!

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2017, 04:21:19 pm »
A productive day sorting out wiring.
I've sorted out two iffy Cobalt Digital IP's, which weren't behaving properly and re-laid a couple of bits of track, where the track had come out of the track joiners.
I'm slowly but surely getting there.
I'll post some pictures once there's something worth photographing :-)
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #58 on: July 21, 2017, 12:53:42 pm »

Well that's somewhat tidier.
I've got rid of about 30 metres of excess cable from the layout.



"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

Offline hillside

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 26616
  • Posts: 147
  • Country: gb
    • Awards
Re: Parish End
« Reply #59 on: July 21, 2017, 12:55:26 pm »

What a difference a bit of paint makes.
It's starting to look a bit like a layout.
Now the fun stuff starts. Making buildings, deciding what goes where, scenery etc. The list goes on.



"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes" - Oscar Wilde

 

Please Support Us!
September Goal: £55.00
Due Date: Sep 30
Total Receipts: £70.00
Above Goal: £15.00
Site Currency: GBP
127% 
September Donations


Advertise Here