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Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« on: February 02, 2017, 06:40:40 pm »
I have not noticed any Swiss (SBB or otherwise) steam locomotives in the stock lists of the usual N gauge manufacturers and retailers in the U.K. or Europe. Being new to this I of course have not exhausted all avenues by any means, and maybe something is available.

I'm not talking about the super-expensive stuff that might be out there, such as those made by Lemaco, but a loco with a new price tag of up to about £250 (DC).

Anybody have any thoughts as to where I might find some?
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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 07:10:47 pm »
Have a play with one of the N scale databases, for example the one I always refer to is  http://www.spurweite-n.de/

I just tried a very quick search for SBB steam locos on there, the results were all Lemaco, Fulgurex and Wabu [ie. expensive jobs!] but of course you'd need to try the other swiss railway companies also to get a full list.
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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 08:17:45 pm »
Thanks Nick. I've spent a long time on that site and spurn.ch, but like you find expensive models. The trick I'm failing with is getting a currently available model in my price range. So frustrating to find something on a list only to find it is either requiring a mortgage  :) or no longer available. :(

I'll follow your link and check some of those manufacturers I've not yet looked at.

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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 09:02:03 pm »
This German beauty is about the nearest thing you will get to a "reasonably priced" steam loco that operates regularly on the Swiss network.
https://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/Trix/8-2-003001-277377-0-0-0-6-10-2-0-gatt-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html
Cheaper than the Lematec and Fulgurex offerings but still pricey.
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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 09:16:36 pm »
This German beauty is about the nearest thing you will get to a "reasonably priced" steam loco that operates regularly on the Swiss network.
https://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/Trix/8-2-003001-277377-0-0-0-6-10-2-0-gatt-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html
Cheaper than the Lematec and Fulgurex offerings but still pricey.

Yes, I found that one but as soon as I saw
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Swiss Association Pacific 01 202 standard design steam locomotive, road number 01 202, built starting in 1925 for the German State Railroad Company, epoch VI.
I dismissed it.

Can you tell me more about its and its running on Swiss rails?

Thanks.
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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 11:13:08 pm »
Intrigued I looked up details on this Swiss Pacific, and happy to say I found its website and a good history PDF:

http://www.dampflok.ch/images/articles/broschure_mitgliederwerbung.pdf

Google translate did its best and I now know all I need.

Very nice loco, but not quite what I was looking for. Thanks again @swisstrains .
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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2017, 12:54:19 am »
Absolutely no 'non-prestige' SBB steam loco available in N.

As has been pointed out 01 202 runs specials in Switzerland, as does SNCF 141R 1244, but they are not SBB steam locos.

Most Swiss steam finished so long ago that it is not a priority subject for the mainstream N manufacturers

I've never looked into it, but some SBB steam locos were German built so there might be a design that could be kitbashed from a German N model.


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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2017, 09:25:53 am »
Ah well, it is as I feared then.  :(

I shall not waste my time and energy on further searching. Thanks.

Now, if only the National Railway Museum would let 60103 go on tour again.......  :hmmm:  or Sir Nigel Gresley after the restoration ...... ;)

But then I'd have to explain it all to SWMBO :o

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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 12:40:48 am »
One of the regular runners is the preserved Eb 3/5. Bizarrely the Eb3/5 cab and back end have a hint of Jinty about them, so a cut and shut of Farish and Kato might work but it would be a very 'niche' project
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2017, 09:42:20 pm »
I have recently been working on a brewery scene for my Swiss layout based very, very, loosely on the Feldschlossen one at Rheinfelden. One of the features of the real thing that I wanted to incorporate was a steam-hauled train to take visitors from my SBB station to the brewery. As we have already concluded in this thread there are no reasonably priced Swiss steam locos so I went in search of a suitable alternative that wouldn't look too out of place.
I discovered that Kato produce a set consisting of a small German style 0-4-0 Tank loco and two 4 wheel coaches that is not unlike the type of loco once used in Swiss industry. The motor is actually in one of the coaches so obviously the loco needs to remain coupled to at least one of them. The detail is very basic but for the price (about 55 Euros) It certainly meets my requirements and I think it is a worthwhile addition to my layout.
As you would expect from Kato it runs very smoothly and to further improve electrical pickup I have soldered jumper cables between the motorised coach and the other one. This is a particularly easy modification because the second coach already has wheel contacts fitted. At the moment the only additional detail I have added is an extra headlight at the top of the loco smokebox as per Swiss practice.

« Last Edit: July 26, 2017, 09:44:14 pm by swisstrains »
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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 09:51:55 pm »
There is also a Fleischmann Krauss - Maffei 0-4-0 tank very similar to the
loco in the post by swisstrains. I think it was discontinued a couple of years
ago, but it appears on EBAY  now and then, made of solid metal and heavy
for its size. i got one from Europe at a reasonable cost and it runs very nicely.

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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2017, 09:54:54 pm »
PS to previous post , there are 2-3 on Ebay at present.

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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2017, 11:13:41 pm »
The old Ibertren "Cuckoo" was a similar 0-4-0 to the Fleischmann "Anna", and was also a decent little model. The chassis was popular with 009 modellers.    They're usually lurking on ebay too.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2017, 12:36:58 am »
These 0-4-0 locos were in the basic Fleischmann starter sets  which
were on sale until 2-3 years ago.  One of the smallest N gauge
steamers I think, along with the Dapol Terrier and 14xx.

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Re: Swiss steam loco - does a standard price N Gauge model exist?
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2017, 10:54:54 am »
I have recently been working on a brewery scene for my Swiss layout based very, very, loosely on the Feldschlossen one at Rheinfelden. One of the features of the real thing that I wanted to incorporate was a steam-hauled train to take visitors from my SBB station to the brewery. As we have already concluded in this thread there are no reasonably priced Swiss steam locos so I went in search of a suitable alternative that wouldn't look too out of place.
I discovered that Kato produce a set consisting of a small German style 0-4-0 Tank loco and two 4 wheel coaches that is not unlike the type of loco once used in Swiss industry. The motor is actually in one of the coaches so obviously the loco needs to remain coupled to at least one of them. The detail is very basic but for the price (about 55 Euros) It certainly meets my requirements and I think it is a worthwhile addition to my layout.
As you would expect from Kato it runs very smoothly and to further improve electrical pickup I have soldered jumper cables between the motorised coach and the other one. This is a particularly easy modification because the second coach already has wheel contacts fitted. At the moment the only additional detail I have added is an extra headlight at the top of the loco smokebox as per Swiss practice.




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