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ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« on: February 06, 2013, 10:22:00 am »
After what seems like ages planning, see http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=9529.0,
I have actually started. So may I present 'ESLING'.



Yes, it is an acronym. Edwardian Seaside Layout In N Gauge.
This is the town end and tram depot. Not much to look at at the moment I admit!



The seaward end. Its where the promenade will be for all my holiday makers to stroll along.



This is the site of the pier. It will be 175' long so not huge but long enough to look right!
As you can see from the above photo's the backscene is in white canvas.
Yes, I'll be painting my own and the challenge will be making it match where it meets the sea.
Having something in front of where it meets, like a bathing machine, will help draw the eye away from it.
(Bathing machines had largely fallen out of use by then & were parked up on the beach but I fancy making a few!)



This is the trackplan from above. Its fairly simple yet interesting.
I thought a small, self contained system would be different.
So yes, there is no fiddle yard on this layout - a first for me!
Where the tram is will be the tram depot. Big enough for four trams.
I plan to have two closed and two open topped for summer service.
They will use an overhead wire system, a dummy one not live, but will have bow collectors not a pole.
Far easier to make, have in place and not uncommon in the U.K.

In the corner behind the depot will be the generating station, in low relief of course.
Also in low relief, at the opposite end at the back will be the railway station building.
All these holiday makers have to arrive in Esling somehow!

Otherwise they will be mainly town buildings with hotels being nearer the sea of course.
I may do an entrance to a park on the corner in front of the tram depot, not yet sure.

Next stage is wiring up the track, fixing it down and paving it. Updates will follow as things progress.




« Last Edit: February 06, 2013, 10:25:54 am by moogle »
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 10:28:19 am »
Been looking forward to this - I have been following the thread with interest. I have fond memories of visiting Blackpool and riding on the trams, so keep up the good work.
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 02:11:27 pm »
Nice one Moogle, I've also been looking forward to your tramway layout and can't wait to see it develop.   :claphappy:
Just out of interest, what's the tram in the pictures, one you've made or what? 

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 04:16:28 pm »
I note that the track across the centre reverses the direction for the main oval. 
I was wondering how and where, you will switch track polarity?

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 07:41:31 am »
I was wondering about that reverse loop as well ;)

It's certainly a different idea and should be interesting to watch it develop :thumbsup:


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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2013, 09:37:36 am »
Just out of interest, what's the tram in the pictures, one you've made or what?




Its one I've made and is a Typhoo Tea tram running on a Kato shorty chassis.
The old Matchbox London Transport tram is the same moulding but with a metal roof not a plastic one.
I'll probably make this one an open topper seeing that I went to the effort of scratch building seating!



Theres a lot of work involved cutting the diecast body (thank god for mini drills!) but the weight it gives to adhesion is worth it.  :thumbsup:

http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab257/Kilnevan/The%20Workbench/LondonTram.mp4


I note that the track across the centre reverses the direction for the main oval. 
I was wondering how and where, you will switch track polarity?
I was wondering about that reverse loop as well ;)


Simply by using sections that will be fed via DPDT switches.
With this method I can reverse the polarity where needed on the 'S' reverse loop and have sections to hold trams in.
The crude illustration below should help explain!  :uneasy:  :-X



The advantage of using Tomix sectional track is that I can just remove rail joiners, insert a thin shim of plastic and have a section break!
The street paving kits they do for it are great, though care is needed on the points as there are a few gaps to be filled after.
It only covers curves of 104 mm, 140 mm and 177 mm radius so the main loop of 243 mm radius will need to be done another way.
I'll probably use card as most of the track is on main roads so probably wouldn't be paved or cobbled.
Some of the main loop will be 'surface free' and stay ballasted.
Hopefully this weekend I can put the feeds in place and finish the surfacing.
Need to clip the point motors back in place first though!  :doh:
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2013, 09:52:39 am »
Looks like being an excellent layout Moogle, those trams really look the part  :thumbsup:
Keep on Smiling
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2013, 10:04:50 am »
Looking real nice....will it go to shows?

Re your scenic break, bathing huts, etc...how about something like this...simple to make and colourful...and at today's prices the real things exchange hands for 30,000...my mate just sold his in Hove!!! As far as I know they have been there over 60 years...I remember them as a lad!!!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.redspottedhanky.com/images/203/original/beach-huts-in-brighton_brighton_37781533.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.redspottedhanky.com/trains/trains-to/brighton/&h=536&w=800&sz=354&tbnid=W_uTS5G0NBRsEM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=134&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbrighton%2Bbeach%2Bhuts%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=brighton+beach+huts&usg=__-QjSz4IPNUv-kBAyfJqLWjXH82A=&docid=W4pNbtSCF3jUHM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=H80UUdykGJS2hAfn4oCADQ&sqi=2&ved=0CC8Q9QEwAA&dur=759
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2013, 10:09:40 am »
Excellent Moogle   look forward to seeing this develop    ;)

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2013, 10:33:10 am »
Looking real nice....will it go to shows?

Re your scenic break, bathing huts, etc...how about something like this...simple to make and colourful...and at today's prices the real things exchange hands for 30,000...my mate just sold his in Hove!!! As far as I know they have been there over 60 years...I remember them as a lad!!!

I plan to make the control panel a plug in one so I can have home operation from the front and rear operation at shows.
So yes, hopefully it will go to shows although that depends on me getting work to afford to buy and run a car to get it to them!  :laugh:
Thats also why I'm building this with what I've got already on a non-existent budget buying as little as possible...

There will be a few beach huts as well as some bathing machines. Ironically its from the latter that the former came from!
A lot regarding the scenic break will depend on how far down the beach comes out as I want a reasonable bit of water around the pier and to have some bathers in.
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2013, 11:27:51 am »
A really interesting layout you have planned there moogle  :thumbsup:

Nice work with the trams and the seating, afew ambient seaside sounds and your pac-a-mac and your ready  :D

cheers John.

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2013, 11:51:54 am »
A really interesting layout you have planned there moogle  :thumbsup:

Nice work with the trams and the seating, afew ambient seaside sounds and your pac-a-mac and your ready  :D

cheers John.

 :thankyousign: Ambient sounds...  :hmmm:  Now there's an idea...

Pac-a-mac? Thats a bit modern for this layout! Plus fours and a mackintosh maybe...  ;)
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2013, 12:09:44 pm »
You have to register to download, but these are free to use  ;)

http://www.freesound.org/browse/tags/seaside/

cheers John.

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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2013, 12:29:39 pm »
There's some good sounds on there,  :thankyousign: for posting.
Reckon I could play with a few of them to make a nice 'soundtrack' to the layout.
Rig my Ipod up to some underbaseboard speakers...  :hmmm:
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Re: ESLING - Moogles new Edwardian Seaside Layout
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2013, 03:17:56 pm »
A really interesting layout you have planned there moogle  :thumbsup:

Nice work with the trams and the seating, afew ambient seaside sounds and your pac-a-mac and your ready  :D

cheers John.

 :thankyousign: Ambient sounds...  :hmmm:  Now there's an idea...

Pac-a-mac? Thats a bit modern for this layout! Plus fours and a mackintosh maybe...  ;)

But you must on no account forget the seagulls or herring gulls or whatever they officially are.
You could have some sitting, some sh.........oh well you get the drift  :D
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