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Title: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on July 14, 2017, 07:51:01 pm
 :beers:

Hi all

I have posted my first "Cascade" layout video on Youtube.  I am really going back to basics, with tracklaying and wiring.  This layout is designed to stretch my abilities for producing realistic, attractive scenery, and the layout is based in Washington State in 1979.

Please take a look and give me your thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCrzmZB6GwI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCrzmZB6GwI)

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: dats475 on July 14, 2017, 08:04:14 pm
Great video, Andy.

I can't wait to see development of Cascade!
The bridge is a nice focal point.
Also an industry would provide a quite wide variety of shunting activity!!
Wonderfully done!!

How's the Athearn loco? Does it run good as Kato or Atlas?

Dats
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on July 14, 2017, 09:17:56 pm
Thanks for your kindness Dats.  I also love the bridge.  It's something I really wanted to incorporate on my new layout.  Switching the fruit plant ought to be simple, but still fun.

As for the Athearn F45, I can honestly say the loco runs just as smoothly as anything else on this layout, or the Montrose and Highland Railroad.  Very nice indeed.  The decoder goes in back to front though, making it unique, amongst my locos.

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Malc on July 14, 2017, 10:20:54 pm
I must admit being a fan of the BN livery. I too have an SD-40 that runs like a dream.
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Webbo on July 15, 2017, 04:34:07 am
Looks like a good project, Andy.

Is that an Atlas bridge that I see?

Webbo
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Bealman on July 15, 2017, 05:02:59 am
Yeah, I've always had a fondness for the BN paint scheme.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: outofgauge on July 15, 2017, 10:17:21 am
Looking good to me too-something about the bn livery that get a lot of people -even though I've gone for BNSF- but I've got a bn switcher still in its colours ( just dirty ) . Is that  100mm celotex your building on ?
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on July 15, 2017, 02:02:44 pm
Hi Guys

Yes Webbo, that's the Atlas 2570 girder bridge.  Goes together very simply and with very little glue required.  I did cheat a little by gluing the track to the bed.  I couldn't be doing with the tiny little screws they supply to fasten the track down!  Besides, I don't have any screwdrivers small enough!

Neil, I don't know what the foam is officially.  I just know it as pink insulation form, and that it is an absolute pain in the neck to obtain in the UK.  I managed to find some from a friend of a friend on Facebook.  I had to drive from Nottingham over to the West Midlands to get it, but it did give me an excuse to call in at the Severn Valley Railway on the way back!

It's good stuff, and I invested in a Woodland Scenics foam cutter.  Took me a while to get used to it, but I like it now.

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: outofgauge on July 15, 2017, 04:37:27 pm
Lol a pain indeed- over your way tomorrow - in east Markham anyways - if it's pink it probs isn't celotex - last I got for a mate - I blagged off a building site - amazing how they just go missing - must've the wind blowing them away ?? Not tried a hot wire cutter yet - but crooked creek will need one I'm sure ! Keep my eye on your progress with that one - I'm I learning mode !
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on July 15, 2017, 08:47:57 pm
Have a safe trip Neil!

I used the foam cutter today to make a start on building up the high hills and cliff face behind the trains at the right hand end of the layout.  When you get used to allowing the hot wire to do the work, and don't force things, it's a joy to use!

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Webbo on July 16, 2017, 02:21:22 am
I started using extruded polystyrene for all my scenery once I realised how easy it was to form. The EP is the really potentially messy white stuff with the little foam balls, but if you cut it with the WS foam cutter the mess is zero. And, the cutter goes through it like a knife through soft butter so is not only tidy but it's quick too for carving landform shapes.

The pink stuff you have, Andy, is something different I take it?

Webbo
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on July 16, 2017, 07:53:02 pm
The pink foam is the stuff we have difficulty obtaining in the UK, Webbo.  It's more rigid than white polystyrene packing materials, and is widely used by the American guys to create landforms.

You can see the difference in my video.

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Snowwolflair on July 16, 2017, 08:00:54 pm
Its always available on eBay and also comes in Blue.
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Webbo on July 17, 2017, 01:52:31 am
Hi Andy and Neil and any other fans of BN out there,

Here is an announcement from PWRS that may be of interest.

https://www.pwrs.ca/announcements/view.php?ID=13821 (https://www.pwrs.ca/announcements/view.php?ID=13821)

Webbo
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on July 17, 2017, 07:29:56 am
Those are very nice Webbo!  I have a couple of Micro trains standard ones which are too clean!  I may get these as well.

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: grumbeast on July 17, 2017, 09:52:14 am
Great idea Andy,

 BN was always my first choice for a US road, and as I'll be in the Pacific Northwest I'll have an excuse to buy some of those cascade green lovelies

Can't wait to see things develop

Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Webbo on July 17, 2017, 11:27:25 am
Graham

If you are moving to Salmon Arm that is north of the border which makes Washington state the Pacific southwest. Remember that. How is your move going by the way?

Webbo
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: grumbeast on July 17, 2017, 01:54:41 pm
True enough Webbo!

 The move is .. well evolving..  We still have to sell our house here (thanks brexit and teresa may :(  )
so we've lost the house in Salmon Arm.. which sucks.. but it has led us to consider new and different things.   not to hijack the thread, but it looks like were now going to be buying land on Vancouver Island and building a log home .. its a terrifying prospect but exciting too.. and yes it will have a basement!

G.
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on July 17, 2017, 05:34:31 pm
Wow Graham, exciting times!

Still haven't ruled out moving to WA ourselves, but it is more likely we stay in England now for financial reasons.

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Jon898 on July 17, 2017, 06:09:47 pm
... it looks like were now going to be buying land on Vancouver Island and building a log home .. its a terrifying prospect but exciting too.. and yes it will have a basement!

G.

Well, you will need somewhere to hide from the bears  :o
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: outofgauge on July 17, 2017, 09:43:52 pm
Andy -as the saying goes -i saw this and thought of you ! :laugh3:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/53/3635-170717214235.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=53481)

Not exactly a hot wire cutter -but it appears to work -Mrs ain't gonna like the vac getting involved tho !!!! :no:
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: dats475 on July 17, 2017, 11:25:50 pm
It looks like fun but I'm glad that It wasn't me doing it!!
Look at the arms. What a mess.   :D
I wonder if cutting with the rotary tool has certain texture when you finish it.

Dats
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Webbo on July 17, 2017, 11:41:35 pm
The mess would have been a lot worse if using a rotary tool on the expanded polystyrene which I used. The EP breaks up into little balls that fly everywhere just like a blizzard and worst of all, they stick to things and are difficult to clean up. So, hot wire on EP - yes; rotary tool on EP - not unless you are truly desperate.

Graham, building a log cabin on Vancouver Island is pretty exciting all right. VI is a nice place - I lived in Victoria for 6 years. Are you planning to live in the back woods?

Webbo
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: grumbeast on July 18, 2017, 08:48:35 am
I hope you have a shop vac to clean up that mess!!! I've only been brave enough to use a rasp on the pink stuff.



Graham, building a log cabin on Vancouver Island is pretty exciting all right. VI is a nice place - I lived in Victoria for 6 years. Are you planning to live in the back woods?

Webbo
My wife grew up in Victoria and North Van so we know the area pretty well, but we're not going full on back-country, just something out of town a few minutes.  We're looking around Shawnigan Lake , Qualicum and Nanaimo at the moment, so small town/village or just out of town although we are looking a getting at least a couple of acres.  Its just a pity it doesnt look like the E&N will resume operation (well SVI now).  I do hope it gets sorted out else its a ferry ride to the mainland to railfan
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on July 18, 2017, 01:11:59 pm
Looking at that guy with his pink foam makes me think that the small amount of mess I make with the foam cutter has made it a brilliant investment!  I've also fallen foul of the white expanded polystyrene in the past.  The little bits stick to everything, with a strangely warm feeling to them as well....

Andy
UK

Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Rich_S on September 24, 2017, 10:38:05 pm
Hi Andy, Looks like you are off to a great start with your Cascade layout. I'm guessing you're aware there is a tunnel west of Wenatchee on the BN now BNSF that bares the name Cascade Tunnel? The tunnel is 7.8 miles in length and maybe the longest tunnel in the US. Even though I tend to model East Coast Railroads, I've always liked the "Big Green Machine". I too have a soft spot of the Milwaukee Road and specifically the electrified line between Harlowton, MT and Avery, Id. The line over St. Paul Pass was especially impressive. The howl of the Little Joe's and Boxcab electrics was impressive and if I remember correctly, one Little Joe was rated at 5,000 HP. I'm looking forward to future updates of your Cascade route.

 

 
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on September 25, 2017, 09:45:13 pm
Hi Rich

Thank you for your kind comments.  I might live in England, but the wife is from Wenatchee, Washington and I enjoyed my trip out there a couple of years ago.  The scenery is what inspired me to model this area, as a diversion from the main Montrose and Highland layout.

I do know about the Cascade Tunnel.  It's got a door at one end, to help contain diesel fumes and then has a system to suck all the fumes out!  I spent some time at nearby Skykomish while I was out there, as well as Wenatchee, and Malaga/Apple Yard, which is where Cascade is meant to be based.

As for the Milwaukee Road, I spent a couple of weeks in Wisconsin in May this year, and developed my interest for the railroad.  I'm now also a member of the Milwaukee Road Historical Society, and have also been a member of the Great Northern Historical Society in the past.  Both organisations are EXCELLENT, and I can't speak more highly of them both.

Oh and if you liked Cascade 1, check out Cascade 2 which is also on my Youtube channel!

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Rich_S on September 25, 2017, 10:57:58 pm
Hi Rich

Thank you for your kind comments.  I might live in England, but the wife is from Wenatchee, Washington and I enjoyed my trip out there a couple of years ago.  The scenery is what inspired me to model this area, as a diversion from the main Montrose and Highland layout.


As for the Milwaukee Road, I spent a couple of weeks in Wisconsin in May this year, and developed my interest for the railroad.  I'm now also a member of the Milwaukee Road Historical Society, and have also been a member of the Great Northern Historical Society in the past.  Both organisations are EXCELLENT, and I can't speak more highly of them both.

Andy
UK


Hi Andy, The next time you and the wife take a trip to Wenatchee, see if you can talk the wife into a side trip to Avery, Id. The Milwaukee Road line over St. Paul Pass has been turned into a trail. It sounds like you can ride through St. Paul Pass Tunnel and across all the bridges.

http://www.ridethehiawatha.com/the-trail (http://www.ridethehiawatha.com/the-trail)

Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on September 26, 2017, 07:13:54 am
That looks awesome!  Thanks Rich.

Andy
UK
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Rich_S on September 28, 2017, 04:29:00 pm
Hi Andy,
   I just watched Cascade 2, very nice updates. Did you have any problems with the water? I cannot find Cascade 3, have you released it yet?

I also just finished watching the Montrose and Highland Railroad #36 video. We pronounce Lehigh Valley as "Lee - High" Valley.

Though you may like to see the locomotive I worked on Monday (9-25-17)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/6318-280917161534.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56207)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/56/6318-280917161638.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=56208)

She is in for her 184 day inspection and maintenance inspection.

Sorry to hear of the passing of your mom in 2016, I offer my condolences. My mom also passed in September of 2016. I also believe we will all be reunited again.



 
Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on September 28, 2017, 04:46:53 pm
Hi Rich

Wow!!!!  So envious of you getting into all those locomotives.  8104 is Dats' favourite locomotive as well!  He'll want to see this photo for sure!

Cascade 3 has not been done yet.  I have to say that when I put the Woodland Scenics Water Effects on the river, I was highly disappointed.  I know the river would go opaque because I was disturbing the smooth, clear surface, but I am not happy at all with the results.  Maybe I'm being too critical, I don't know.

Just wanted to ask Rich, that in MHRR 41, it's Railfan Day at South Pine.  Do you think you can drive one or two of the Heritage locos over for me?!!!  I'm just waiting for one particular CSX Heritage loco - Yes you read that correctly - to arrive from Mike Fifer, then I'll be making the video.

Andy
UK

Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: Rich_S on September 28, 2017, 05:57:21 pm
Hi Rich

Wow!!!!  So envious of you getting into all those locomotives.  8104 is Dats' favourite locomotive as well!  He'll want to see this photo for sure!

Cascade 3 has not been done yet.  I have to say that when I put the Woodland Scenics Water Effects on the river, I was highly disappointed.  I know the river would go opaque because I was disturbing the smooth, clear surface, but I am not happy at all with the results.  Maybe I'm being too critical, I don't know.

Just wanted to ask Rich, that in MHRR 41, it's Railfan Day at South Pine.  Do you think you can drive one or two of the Heritage locos over for me?!!!  I'm just waiting for one particular CSX Heritage loco - Yes you read that correctly - to arrive from Mike Fifer, then I'll be making the video.

Andy
UK

Hi Andy, Sorry, no can do on the Heritage Units. Part of the government mandated PTC is GPS being installed on all the locomotives. The boxes on the roof, we call antenna farms, so far two of those antennas are GPS antennas. Let me tell you, they keep a pretty close eye on the location of those units, it wouldn't take them very long to realize a couple found their way to the UK, then we'd both have a lot of explaining to do :D  :smiley-laughing:  I met Mike in person at the Pittsburgh N Scale convention. He's a great guy. Which CSX Heritage unit is he doing? Is it by chance the P&LE heritage Unit???  :laugh3: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Cascade 1
Post by: texhorse on September 28, 2017, 06:15:38 pm
 :laughabovepost:

Hi Rich

I think we'll be ok.  South Pine may be in the UK, if you think literally, but as Bob Ross would say "In our little world...." South Pine is on the Indiana / Ohio border, so I think it would be ok.  I hear rumours there should be six NS Heritage units there, together with a UP one, the two BNSF ones which Cherry Valley depot repainted a few years back, and the new CSX one.  This is an ES44AC loco which CSX have repainted into Seaboard System grey colours.

There's also rumours that there will be a shuttle service between the "All Aboard" restaurant, the former South Pine station, and Gallinas, with another Heritage unit on three Amtrak carriages, providing rides for foamers er railfans and the public.

Should be a good day.  Now if I can only shrink myself down to N Scale size, I would no doubt appreciate it more.  On second thoughts, I need to film the event, so perhaps I'll stay as I am....

Andy
UK
 :D