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Poll

Would you buy a crowd-funded Class 116/117/118 DMU?

Yes, at least 1 Class 116
5 (5.4%)
Yes, at least 1 Class 117
13 (14%)
Yes, at least 1 Class 118
4 (4.3%)
Yes, at least 1 - it doesn't matter which of the three classes.
24 (25.8%)
Yes, at least 2 different classes
13 (14%)
Yes, at least one of each class
6 (6.5%)
No, I wouldn't want any of those.
28 (30.1%)

Total Members Voted: 91

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2015, 08:44:11 pm »
Ill have an N gauge Class 118 and to be honest, (within reason!) the cost is irrelevant; cos one fits ideally with what I want to do.

I have other Rail Blue DMUs* that can and will run on my WR plans, but I know they are not really right - A 118 is right and therefore worth acquiring :)

* Bought cos they are available and do fit in with another, longer term plan that may end up N or 2FS  - I aint thought that far yet!

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #76 on: September 23, 2015, 11:11:39 pm »

Hi Jason,

Now we know Bachmann are doing the 117 in OO, I suspect that will soon be shrunk down to N.  They've said they are keen to look at the 116 and 118 too, and so in turn they are likely to appear if the 117 doeswell.

If they don't then that could be the point for Revolution to see if they would be interested in our trying to help them "over the line", as we are hoping to do for Dapol with the 21 & 29..

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #77 on: September 23, 2015, 11:26:24 pm »
Cheers Ben
its nice to know there seems to be a lot of sense in your operation (not that Im suggesting it would be otherwise!!)
But a helping hand and a "nudge" to the manufacturers seems a good plan :)

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #78 on: September 24, 2015, 07:35:33 am »
Although primarily based on the Western Region the Class 117 units could be seen on Southern Region metals on Reading - Guildford services.


Deeper than that Chris. Class 117s ran as far into Southern Region as Reading - Gatwick Airport and, for a while, as far east as Kent on the Reading - Tonbridge services. Through passenger workings to Tonbridge came to an end with electrification of the line between Redhill and Tonbridge. After that they terminated, as they still do, at Redhill (except the Gatwick services of course).
In fact all the various DMU types based at Reading (except the Thumpers and Turbos) were regular performers to Kent in the 1980s/early 1990s.

P/S They also covered the Reading - Basingstoke services on occasion if no Thumper was available for some reason.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2015, 07:45:39 am by D1042 Western Princess, Reason: additional information. »
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #79 on: September 24, 2015, 07:07:12 pm »
Even more southern-ness:

Portsmouth - Bristol Cardiff services were Hymek powered in the 1960s, then replaced by Class 123 Swindon Units (date unknown).

The western's 117s (in blue), along with 119s (blue/grey) and later 101s (blue/grey) took over the Portsmouth - Bristol/Cardiff services from the 123s in the early 1970s. Two three car DMU sets were used and usually one of each (i.e. a 117/119 or 117/101).  There was a 15 minute stop at Salisbury for them to get their breath back  ;) or believe it or not to wait for a connecting train  :laugh:

They were replaced in about 1977 by class 31s hauling five Mk 1s (typically SO-SO-BG-FK-SO). The 31 wasnt as good at keeping time as the DMUs  :thumbsdown:

Even more reason for a 117 in my book!

Bob

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #80 on: September 24, 2015, 07:30:42 pm »
I didn't know 117s even worked to Portsmouth -  never saw any running when I attended my junior school between 1974-1977 which was located beside the Portsmouth-Southampton line.
The Bristol trains by then used pairs of class 119s. Neither did I see any 101s in operation on these services, either.

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #81 on: September 24, 2015, 08:31:57 pm »
Somewhere i have the photos to prove it  :hmmm:

I was 14 in 1974/75 when i started spotting them around Portsmouth and the 101s only came in about 1976, and by summer 1977 they had been replaced by 31/1 and then for winter the early batch of 31/4 locos. The 101s came from Plymouth and had P801-P805 codes on the front. I think they were reallocated to Bristol for a while.
i agree the 119s were most common, but the 117 were the only all blue WR DMUs at the time and the combination was often an all blue and a blue grey combo.

Cheers
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #82 on: September 24, 2015, 08:50:04 pm »
Please dig out your photos ... :)
I may consider buying a 117 in blue if ever released ... it would be much easier than hacking several Dapol 121s for the same result.
(PS I already own two 3-car 101s, one each in blue and blue/grey)

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #83 on: September 24, 2015, 09:11:54 pm »
Although primarily based on the Western Region the Class 117 units could be seen on Southern Region metals on Reading - Guildford services.


Deeper than that Chris. Class 117s ran as far into Southern Region as Reading - Gatwick Airport and, for a while, as far east as Kent on the Reading - Tonbridge services. Through passenger workings to Tonbridge came to an end with electrification of the line between Redhill and Tonbridge. After that they terminated, as they still do, at Redhill (except the Gatwick services of course).
In fact all the various DMU types based at Reading (except the Thumpers and Turbos) were regular performers to Kent in the 1980s/early 1990s.

P/S They also covered the Reading - Basingstoke services on occasion if no Thumper was available for some reason.

The Thumpers, being SR units, were never based at Reading.

I remember the WR DMUs on the Gatwick Services. I think the Class 119s had extra luggage racks and, maybe, special branding on the side? I think WR DMUs worked on to the SR at Basingstoke and Salisbury quite early on (certainly in pre-BR Blue days).

I had not meant to give an exhaustive list of services on the SR that were regularly powered by WR DMUs but am very happy that others have done so. (I did not know that they worked into Kent regularly.) The WR Class 101s were not very common. Plymouth Laira and Bristol Bath Road both had allocations of 101s but I cannot remember if they both had them allocated to them at the same time. Bristol's, at least, originally, were in all over blue.
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #84 on: September 25, 2015, 09:27:05 pm »
Not fully read this thread, but my vote (being a Midlands Lad) has gone to a 116.

Please please please...

Cheers, Anthony
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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #85 on: June 13, 2016, 06:19:05 pm »
Hi Guys
           I would like to add my support for this project, primarily the 117/118 variants as for the era and area that I'm interested in modelling, preferably green with speed whisker or SYP would be favourite and probably two of each although I might be tempted to additionally if made available in late NSE colours!!

       Having read all the previous posts an this thread-I would like to ask Ben A & Red death(as I believe they are both involved with Revolution) what would it take to "nudge" Dapol in the direction of producing the 121/122 DTS units  as  I seldom (key word) saw the DMBS on their own in the London Division (WR).
       But good luck with whatever you decide to do!!!
(were the DTS trailers the same length as the DMS units on the 117/118--if so another possibility for a variant as it doesn't need a motor!!)
Regds

Chris 
« Last Edit: June 14, 2016, 02:30:10 am by chris newman, Reason: missing last additional line of thought!! »

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2018, 07:24:22 pm »
Hi everyone,

Only just discovered this thread. I too would love to see either of the above units produced, preferably Blue & Grey would be for me as Farish still don't have one on the cards... I've put my vote in  ;)

A 117 I think would be the best choice as it has seen such a wide sphere of operation plus the different liveries right from BR green to Regional Railways.

The larger Suburban DMU's are really lacking if your modelling anything from the late 50's through to the early 90's

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: Suggestion for RevolutioN - Class 116/117/118 DMU
« Reply #87 on: February 10, 2018, 06:28:03 pm »
My vote went in for the 118. Living in Devon in my childhood and early adult life meant that these were for me the staple diet of DMU activity until the invasion of the ill fated 142's.  Ironically they were replaced by various worn out 2 & 3 car 101's & 108's and a handful of single car 122's.  In the early 80's the 118's were predominantly allocated to Laira with one or two sets at Bristol.  These and the 117's were very similar to look at, one give away being the profile of the top of headcode boxes.  This was down to the different builders.  In most other respects they were pretty much the same due to the standard design from BR.  For me either would be acceptable, but a preference is for the 118.  Although as mentioned the 117's appeared in a wider range of liveries including one set (B430?) that appeared in Chocolate & Cream for the GWR 150 celebrations.  The 118's only appeared in green, all over blue, blue and grey and the one off BT advertising livery (set P460 from memory).
As for price?  If I can afford one then I will buy one.  Like it or not prices are only going to go up, I see the new Farish 3 car 108 in the 'white with blue stripe' livery is advertised on one retailers website at 168.00, not sure when this is due for release though.

 

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