!!

Not Registered?

Welcome!  Please register to view all of the new posts and forum boards - some of which are hidden to guests.  After registering and gaining 10 posts you will be able to sell and buy items on our N'porium.

If you have any problems registering, then please check your spam filter before emailing us.  Hotmail users seem to find their emails in the Junk folder.


Thanks for reading,
The NGF Staff.

Author Topic: Detailing 3f and 4f locos  (Read 1964 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2018, 07:45:10 pm »
Well tonight I managed to find time to give the model a coat of Humbrol Coalblack, leave it to dry for a couple of days now and see how it looks then.

Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2018, 11:14:00 pm »
A few more pics of my Union mills after painting. The loco looks ok but I was still not happy with the sides of the tender. So I sprayed some Halfords primer into a jar then transferred it to the airbrush where I could re-paint the sides of the tender.


Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline Hailstone

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 17138
  • Posts: 835
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2018, 02:05:00 pm »
If it is any help, I have used Halfords satin black aerosol cans with complete confidence for some years now, and it is also perfect to place transfers on, after which I then spray the whole loco with Testors dullcote if I want a matt finish

Regards,

Alex 

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2018, 03:38:03 pm »
Thanks for the tip Alex, I used a halfords spray can with the first layer of undercoat. I thought it might be too thick for the airbrush but it was ok. You have so much more control spraying with the airbrush,has you can see I touched up the side easy were I had sanded it down again to the metal.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2018, 04:12:25 pm »
@Rowlie hi there i managed to get a copy ot the book from Bill Hudson books,it was a good price ordered Sat  and delivered today so good service.
I intend finishing the painting tonight,another coat on the engine and finish the tender,pics to follow.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2018, 08:21:05 pm »
More work on my Union Mills, another coat of paint, plus I have sorted the problems with the tender. I will leave it to dry for a few days now with it being Humbrol enamel paint.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline Train Waiting

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 751
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
  • The Table-Top Railway.
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2018, 09:03:28 pm »
This looks very good indeed, Chris.

Best wishes.

John
'Why does the Disney Castle work so well?  Because it borrows from reality without ever slipping into it.'

(Acknowledgement: John Goodall Esq, Architectural Editor, 'Country Life'.)


The Table-Top Railway is a train set trying and failing to be a model railway.

I believe that train sets and model railways are fun.

Offline Rowlie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 20349
  • 2mm Association Number: 4846
  • Posts: 152
  • Country: wales
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2018, 09:33:10 pm »
Hi Chris, your modifications are looking good.  Iím glad you managed to get a copy of the book, that was very good service by Bill Hudson.
Look forward to seeing the next instalment.

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2018, 09:46:00 pm »
Thanks for the kind comments, I see from the book I have bought that the tenders had a brake standoff on one side of the front of the tender. I bought some of those off N-Brass but was not sure of the fitment, it looks like one was fitted to the tender. I also have vaccum pipes to fit and I am expecting a number plate and shed code etch to arrive anytime soon. Then it is a matter of fitting the decals to the loco and tender, and some real coal on the top of the tender. It should look good then.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2018, 10:04:26 pm »
Here are a couple of pics showing my Union Mills 3f, after a second coat of matt paint. It looks a bit shiny but I will fix the decals in place then coat it with matt varnish.



I will leave the paint to harden I think for a couple of days at least.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2018, 10:29:08 pm »
Just found out why it looks shiny, I picked up the wrong tin of paint, 21 instead of 85, hopefully matt varnish will sort it. I will test it first on something or another another coat but this time the correct paint.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2018, 10:07:49 pm »
I made the decision to paint the loco with matt black after masking where the decals will go. I will give it a coat of varnish after fitting the decals.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline Dr Al

  • Trade Count: (+47)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3985
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2018, 10:56:14 pm »
It is best to wait until transfers are applied, then matt coat the full model - the risk no is that there'll be a line around the transfers, or the transfered area will be less matt than the rest.

Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Roy L S
If Dr Al is online he may be able to provide a more comprehensive answer.

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2018, 11:40:56 pm »
Yes thanks Alan, I have only give it a light coat where the decals go, I made the masking tape has small has possible. The cab sides should be ok because i more or less masked the whole of the cab side. The tender was more difficult to mask, it looks ok at the moment. I will let the paint dry then give it a close inspection, I might have to feather it slightly. Thats the beauty of the airbrush with thinned paint the layers are so thin.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

Offline lil chris

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • N Gauge Society Number: 23889
  • Posts: 2640
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
    • Awards
Re: Detailing 3f and 4f locos
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2018, 07:47:11 pm »
I have given the loco its Fox decals and a coat of Phoenix matt varnish. It still needs real coal in the tender and some slight weathering and of course the crew back in the cab.
Lil Chris
My layout here East Lancashire Lines
http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29492.0

 

Please Support Us!
February Goal: £55.00
Due Date: Feb 28
Total Receipts: £60.00
Above Goal: £5.00
Site Currency: GBP
109% 
February Donations


Advertise Here