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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2016, 12:53:03 pm »
Not sure its surprising. but it does, i suppose, depend on the prices you wish to charge and the margin you wish to make on the product.

I know that i can sell x amount of products at XX price and break even, and the prices in the original post in this section shows that on a sliding scale.

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2016, 04:11:43 pm »
Count me in on 5 packs but I would like at least 2 maybe 3 different colour runs  in those packs. If this is successful and you move onto the later 80's version cars at a later date
then I would be willing to buy (depending on the quality) at least 10-15 packs. I would also require them shipped to me in the USA

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2016, 06:32:27 pm »
Piecing together information from a few different sources it looks like the minimum order size for a recolour of an existing model is 3000, and a new mould around 15000 models.

I would have thought these figures are close as £3.95 is the RRP
minus VAT £3.16
Distributer may get 50% £1.58
Oxford get £1.58 ish to design, manufacture, package, shipping, import duty, profit, wages, advertising, etc.
New Model on woodbury22uk number 15000 x 1.58 = £23,700 spread over 5 liveries. Not big bucks, based on back of a fag packet calculations of course.
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2016, 11:47:49 am »
IIRC, don't Oxford also have their own factory? Which may affect the commercials somewhat.

Regardless of this, I hope that Dave gets enough interest to get this off the ground, the lack of convincing N gauge vehicles has been an irritation of mine for a long time.

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2016, 06:10:46 pm »
N gauge RTP 1960’s-70’s cars from DJM (& RMWEb)

From DJM:

N gauge RTP (ready to plant) 1960’s-70’s cars (pack of 5)

With the advent of car carrying wagons from Graham Farish, and the dearth of variety of the ‘food and drink’ plain cars for this era, this is the perfect time to launch a further crowdfunding for a pack of 5 cars based on vehicles of that period.

Tooling to do these correctly is quite expensive as it’s a more complicated shape in a smaller area and this costs accordingly. The cars will feature separately painted wheels and hubs, glazing, painted lights, bumpers, door handles etc.

The run will be for only 500 packs, and after that the second run will be the same but in different colours of the day, for variety. The vehicles will be spray painted and not left in a plastic colour moulded state.

This crowdfunding is for as many packs as you want at £19.95 per pack of 5

The types of cars for the first run will be will be modelled on the list as follows: Viva, Allegro, 1100, Zephyr, P5B (This is pack product code DJM-V-N-00001)

 

All information and the ‘expressions of interest’ page will be on the DJModels web site

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2016, 06:31:59 pm »
I have asked whether the Viva and Zephyr can be more precisely identified as each came in 2 or 3 quite different body styles over the 20 year period covered by the 1960s- 1970s.
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2016, 07:07:25 pm »

Hello all,

For clarity, the Carflat wagons are available from the NGS initially, and we are expecting them for summer 2017, so they won't actually be available in the standard Farish range until summer 2019 at the earliest.

That's no reason not to start stocking up on cars of course, and the models DJM is offering are, I am happy to say, different to those the NGS is planning to  release with the Carflats.

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #52 on: August 26, 2016, 08:12:21 pm »
Can someone inform this numpty how many cars a carflat would carry so I know how many cars to order? :dunce:
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #53 on: August 26, 2016, 08:36:54 pm »
Can someone inform this numpty how many cars a carflat would carry so I know how many cars to order? :dunce:
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Normally 4 cars per wagon, but you could get five little ones on physically if you had enough securing chocks.
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #54 on: August 26, 2016, 09:06:20 pm »
Thanks Mike.
As my layout is based near Cowley I would have preferred Maestros and Marinas but have decided that, due to a wildcat strike in Longbridge, some production was transferred using the Morris Cowley station and goods yard ;)

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2016, 01:33:51 pm »
This is a great initiative. Glad to hear about the planning with the NGS to avoid duplication!

I have no doubt that I will want at least one pack of each different colour set produced! 60-70's cars will fit perfectly on the streets of Reading, on a rake of carflats, and on motorail trains when Reading is in 70's guise. I doubt I will ever have enough, so please count me in... For the DJM crowdfunding and the NGS carflat cars.

The models of common cars cited so far are ones I remember, so just right to tempt me.

And when you get to the 1980s cars, I'll be in for a couple of those too, just because I collect stuff, and I'll be doing rule 1 on scenics too.
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2016, 02:30:25 pm »

The types of cars for the first run will be will be modelled on the list as follows: Viva, Allegro, 1100, Zephyr, P5B (This is pack product code DJM-V-N-00001)

All information and the ‘expressions of interest’ page will be on the DJModels web site

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Whoops. Never seen that on the website but found it under 'Other'.
Surely it would also help to have a numbers box alongside each item, especially the cars as although I have ticked the box for the cars, in actual fact I'd need probably between 5-8 packs. This might also go towards seeing how the crowdfunding sums are heading :hmmm:

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2016, 11:02:50 pm »
I've found the expressions of interest page, but not the actual crowd funding page. Where is it?

Also, can you give more model details for each one, including year of introduction?

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2016, 09:38:28 am »
looking forward to different cars in my era (5)

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2016, 07:33:54 am »
With all the excitement on the Class 92 has this project failed on the stop blocks? I am still wanting to know what actual vehicles are proposed before committing. After all the detailed precision applied to numbers and livery on the locomotives it seems strange that over two months in the product is still so vague.

I have asked over on the RMWeb thread a couple of times. Not saying which variant of the Viva or Zephyr is intended is the railway equivalent of saying it is a Mk2 coach. It would affect how many sets I ordered.
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