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N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« on: July 28, 2016, 11:31:18 am »
Hi everyone, i've posted the following on RMWeb ( :sorrysign:) and post here for comments.

It may or may not be of interest to some of you.
cheers
Dave
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Hi everyone,

This is something i've been thinking seriously about for some time, and its' come more to the fore since the announcement of the Farish Motorail wagon.

I've put a plan together to propose a crowdfunded pack of 5 different 1960's to 1970's era cars.
These will be plastic, with a fully molded and detailed body, separate chassis and wheels, and clear glazing.
Each car will be painted (not left plastic colour), and have painted wheels, hub caps, number plates, radiator grills, head and tail lights and where possible indicator lights.
I've reached an agreement that after 500 packs have been produced the run will change colour to other authentic colours of the day, and this will keep going per 500 run to keep things different.

As a modeller, you've either got to go to the trouble of repainting your cars yourself (and if your like me, i can never get them as good as the factory finish) or stick with the same colours as per the factory left them. Heck, some of them are left in their plastic molded colours too.

In this day and age it not impossible if there's a will, to do it the way i'm suggesting so that common cars can be seen in the same street on your layout, or indeed on your motorail train etc but with different colours.

I also envisage the possibility for fellow modellers getting together to swap cars depending on their tastes and needs etc.

Anyway, the nitty gritty...... the cost.

OK, in the scheme of things this doesn't sound too bad, but its' still monies needed up front to make the project a go'er. (please remember these are plastic and will be very light on car transporters so that you can model scale length trains without the need to double head etc to move them as you might have to do with metal cars.

If i get 1000 orders the cost per customer is 41.70   per pack of 5 cars
If i get 2000 orders the cost per customer is 26.40   per pack of 5 cars
If i get 3000 orders the cost per customer is 21.32   per pack of 5 cars
if i get 4000 orders the cost per customer is 18.79   per pack of 5 cars
If i get more than 4000 the price will drop further but as you can see from above, the price drop will slow up each 500 - 1000 produced.

This price difference between the quantities is purely the math used to amortize the fixed tooling cost which comes down per amount produced.
Obviously the 1000 customer price is a no go, but for 5 cars maybe 3000 sales are possible?

I envisage an RRP of 24.95 when and if they go on sale in stores.

Anyway, the choice of cars is as follows..... Vauxhall Viva, Morris Allegro, Morris 1100, Ford Zephyr, Rover P5B

If i can get this project off the ground the second series of vehicles will include other cars such as the early Fiesta and Princess models.

Right, over to you. and please be as candid as you think in your posting here.
Together i think we can make this one work, what do you think?
Cheers
Dave
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2016, 11:41:25 am »
Sounds like an excellent plan, I'm on record somewhere saying someone should do something like this, where do I sign up? :thumbsup:

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2016, 11:43:08 am »
I would be interested in these cars but only at the 3000 order plus prices they will be useful with the launch of the NGS carflats.
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2016, 11:44:07 am »
I would be interested

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2016, 11:52:13 am »
I would be interested at the 2000 order price level. Even at around 30.
 Where do I signup  :)
« Last Edit: July 28, 2016, 11:54:02 am by Tom U »

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2016, 11:52:22 am »
Hi everyone,

sorry but i should have asked.
If you are interested, i'd like to have a feel for the amount of packs you'd be looking for (remember its crowdfunded so if it works you'd need to spend the monies up front)
I can narrow down options a bit once and if it proceeds.

For example you might want 4 packs, but would you want 4 from the first 500  or 4 different packs (ergo different car colours). but this can be fleshed out later.
cheers
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2016, 11:57:12 am »
Dave, I really think you need to have a Granada or MK1 Contina in the offering??

I'd be in for a few of packs if they were under a fiver a car so 25 would be acceptable for a pack of five...
« Last Edit: July 28, 2016, 12:03:23 pm by Only Me »



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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2016, 11:57:26 am »
Hi Dave,

Any possibility of some 1980s cars instead or are you proposed models set in stone? I'm not sure why, but there's hardly anything available, apart from a few 30 years old white metal lumps.

I'd really like some Escorts, Capris, Sierras, Metros etc but no-one ever seems to want to produce them.

I'd happily pay 40 for a pack of 1980s rust buckets.


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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2016, 12:34:50 pm »
Hi mate,

I'm pretty sure that my choices for the first batch won't be everybody's taste, the same as 80's wouldn't be to others tastes either.

It's a case of you gotta start somewhere, and by starting in the 60/70's era it covers possibly the most popular era for trains and vehicles.

I will expand the range should it Prove popular=r, but remember it's early days at the minute.
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Dave
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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2016, 12:51:42 pm »
Fair enough Dave,

If it helps, I'd probably buy one pack of the 70s cars you are proposing, to support the venture if nothing more.

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2016, 01:14:21 pm »
It depends, to an extent, which cars you're offering but I'd probably order at least one pack.

When can we start frothing and arguing over which cars should be included? ;)



Anyway, the choice of cars is as follows..... Vauxhall Viva, Morris Allegro, Morris 1100, Ford Zephyr, Rover P5B

If i can get this project off the ground the second series of vehicles will include other cars such as the early Fiesta and Princess models.



Sorry, I should have read the OP properly!
« Last Edit: July 28, 2016, 03:48:50 pm by johnlambert, Reason: Didn\'t read OP! »

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2016, 01:16:42 pm »
Hmmm, I'd certainly go for one pack, I hadn't thought about the carflats, I'll need to think about how I could use those (worryingly easily, I suspect).

How many cars per carflat?

My personal preferences would lean more towards late 70s/early 80s but I understand you have to start somewhere. Three of the models (Vauxhall Viva, Morris Allegro, Morris 1100) were certainly still knocking around in various forms at that time (wait - just checking, was there ever such a thing as a "Morris" Allegro?), though the other two I had to look up.

Finally, will you be offering a choice of numberplates?  :hmmm:

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2016, 01:25:35 pm »
Hmmm, I'd certainly go for one pack, I hadn't thought about the carflats, I'll need to think about how I could use those (worryingly easily, I suspect).

How many cars per carflat?

My personal preferences would lean more towards late 70s/early 80s but I understand you have to start somewhere. Three of the models (Vauxhall Viva, Morris Allegro, Morris 1100) were certainly still knocking around in various forms at that time (wait - just checking, was there ever such a thing as a "Morris" Allegro?), though the other two I had to look up.

Finally, will you be offering a choice of numberplates?  :hmmm:

Just joking  :D

As far as I know there was never a Morris Allegro, only the Austin Allegro.  The Morris Marina was sold as an Austin in some markets (and the Morris Minor van was also sold under the Austin name).

The Austin/Morris 1100/1300 range, Allegro and the Marina seem like good choices for N scale road vehicles, given how popular they were at the time.  Well, popular may not be the word, but there were plenty of them.

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2016, 01:26:55 pm »
Yep - count me in, Dave. I'll need a second mortgage to fund this as I'd want a trainful of same make cars e.g. shipping new ex Cowley or, as you suggest, can go back to being a kid and doing 'swappsies' in the playground ;D

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Re: N gauge Cars (crowdfunded proposal)
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2016, 01:38:21 pm »
Yep - count me in, Dave. I'll need a second mortgage to fund this as I'd want a trainful of same make cars e.g. shipping new ex Cowley or, as you suggest, can go back to being a kid and doing 'swappsies' in the playground ;D

I would swap some 1100s (Cowley?) for some Allegros (Longbridge?).

OK, I think I've finally lost it, it's 2016 and I'm speculatively arranging future swaps of BMC/BL "classics". Where's my Allegromon Go app?
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