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Author Topic: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study  (Read 20317 times)

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Offline Arrachogaidh

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2015, 10:45:20 pm »
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Class 29 from my Mainline BR Locos Book MT/25

Sadly no Class 21

Published 1970
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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2015, 10:31:54 am »
Some more colour examples.

Blue 29 (at least I think it's blue?) - EDIT - It's not, it's two tone green. See post below!

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=26810


A beautiful two tone green example of a 29. Look at that roof! Not so sure I like the full yellow ends......

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=32588

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=32645



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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2015, 12:24:21 pm »
Nice photos. But if you look carefully at the 'blue' loco then the BR steam-era late crest is just visible under the grime, so I suspect the loco is actually green. (Well, brown, really.) If it had been blue it would have had the corporate logo, aka the arrows of indecision. I don't think the late crest was ever applied on blue paintwork, although maybe someone knows to the contrary?
PW

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2015, 12:32:24 pm »
Nice photos. But if you look carefully at the 'blue' loco then the BR steam-era late crest is just visible under the grime, so I suspect the loco is actually green. (Well, brown, really.) If it had been blue it would have had the corporate logo, aka the arrows of indecision. I don't think the late crest was ever applied on blue paintwork, although maybe someone knows to the contrary?
PW

Thanks PW, I suspected as much when I saw the impression of a white (yucky) cheat line down the length of the side, but was totally blind to the crest.

Cheers

Scotty

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2015, 01:50:59 pm »
Fascinating.  Those pics of D6123 at Perth show the original 21 style ends.  Were there other 29s which retained that style I ask myself?  Some bright spark with photos and relevant knowledge could have fun if we are not careful!  The old adage from the late CJF holds good.  Best to have a photo of the specific loco you are modelling - hoping there is one.  Like the roofs.

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2015, 02:01:34 pm »
Passing through my home station. The tracks have been thinned out a bit since then.....

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2015, 02:21:39 pm »
Fascinating.  Those pics of D6123 at Perth show the original 21 style ends.  Were there other 29s which retained that style I ask myself?  Some bright spark with photos and relevant knowledge could have fun if we are not careful!  The old adage from the late CJF holds good.  Best to have a photo of the specific loco you are modelling - hoping there is one.  Like the roofs.


Just the first one to be refurbished (ironically enough....) as far as I'm aware.....

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2015, 03:55:54 pm »
More colour:

Here's one showing the tablet equipment...

http://www.brdatabase.info/images/locos/diesel/000019_39a.jpg

and a suitably grubby 29 at Dundee

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8486/8250473150_312ced614e_z.jpg

Beautiful period shot at Glasgow Queen Street, with connecting doors....well, connecting...29

https://flic.kr/p/axrDB2

Another 29, fantastic period image at Stirling

https://flic.kr/p/fLRs9u

Maud Junction 21s meeting from the Fraserburgh and the Peterhead routes

https://flic.kr/p/6pSHYn

Fraserburgh, all over green

https://flic.kr/p/6pSHYn

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2015, 04:05:43 pm »

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2015, 06:26:42 pm »
When I was 8 or 9 my grandad passed away and I inherited a collection of OO gauge bits. In amongst them was the Hornby King Size Set

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This joy to behold had a blue 29 in it and became one of my favourite locos, it was also one of the first locomotives I could remember and looked for one when I started N gauging. Can't imagine they were in blue for long but it would be nice for old times sake to get a 6124 (although the green also looks tasty.)

I would be so in on one of these.

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2015, 07:36:57 pm »
When I was 8 or 9 my grandad passed away and I inherited a collection of OO gauge bits. In amongst them was the Hornby King Size Set

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This joy to behold had a blue 29 in it and became one of my favourite locos, it was also one of the first locomotives I could remember and looked for one when I started N gauging. Can't imagine they were in blue for long but it would be nice for old times sake to get a 6124 (although the green also looks tasty.)

I would be so in on one of these.

Holy smoke, that's some set!

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2015, 08:24:11 am »
Class 21 on Stirling Shed


002-34-Stirling-13-7-65-D6116 by david.l.quayle, on Flickr

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2015, 08:32:56 am »
The more I see photo's of these the more I want one even though I live South of the border. Thanks for the photo's Scottystitch.
Geoff

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2015, 08:43:51 am »
The more I see photo's of these the more I want one even though I live South of the border. Thanks for the photo's Scottystitch.

Ha!! Geoff, you've stumbled on my elaborate evil scheme to hypnotise you all into wanting some!  :beers:

If I keep spreading the eye-candy, maybe you'll all want one! :smiley-laughing:

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Re: NBL Type 2 Class 21/29 - A Crowdfunded Case Study
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2015, 11:14:24 am »
I've now managed to track down an electronic copy of "Modern Locomotives Illustarted" No 197, dealing with the 22s, 21s and 29s:

There is a wealth of information regarding liveries (which locomotives got what), allocations, a walk round and a wealth of photographs. Unfortunately, the drawings again show the roofs as being more or less identical.....There is a reasonably detailed description of the locomotives in the text.

It doesn't look like I can download it to my desktop (although I can print the whole magazine), but if Ben and/or Mike were interested, I would be happy to give them my log in details for pocketmag to let them take a look and see if the information would in anyway sway a decision.

 

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