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Author Topic: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door  (Read 65284 times)

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2013, 10:22:31 pm »
Nicely done :thumbsup:

Didn't they have a single yellow as well below the two reds that used to come on for a few seconds first? Or is that just the local ones I remember?  :-\


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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2013, 10:37:51 pm »
You're quite right Paul - actually I point out on the vid that the yellow is missing - just couldn't find space for it!

I might have another go with smaller LEDs in the fullness of time, but for the moment I think it serves the purpose on Deansmoor.

Thanks for your interest - and yours too John.

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2013, 06:04:13 am »
Sorry Jon :-[

That'll teach me to turn the sound up when watching vids in future! :D


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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2013, 08:46:44 am »
I like your 'can do' approach to electric trickery Jon. How will you wire it to get the yellow light up before the red starts if you do modify it?

I've been busy tonight getting the access ladders on the cement terminal. They still need a little tweaking to straighten the bottom ladder up but it was gone 01.00 and needed to sleep!



 


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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2013, 09:13:45 am »
Hi Paul - no problem - at least you had a look at the vid, and thanks for the positive comment  :thumbsup:

And Neal is also right to point out that the operation of the yellow would take a bit of working out, whether to have it signalman operated or use a electronic box, such as this one:

http://www.blocksignalling.co.uk/index.php/lcs.html

I'm putting it on the back burner for a bit though, plenty of other jobs to do on Deansmoor.  When you see it on the layout it seems such a tiny detail!

Neal -that access ladder is fab, you are a wizard with brasswork!

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2013, 12:51:47 pm »
G'day mate, really impressed with the diagrams. How do you make them

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2013, 01:03:43 pm »
Hi Bart,

I draw them in Microsoft PowerPoint, print them on my Laser printer and laminate them.   I have the kit for my business, so it is a useful spin-off!

I have installed the LC flashers this morning - a couple of shots:



And a close-up



Looks like I need to bend the post over a bit toward the garages!  Thanks to Leo1961 for the reference that enabled me to get the sizes right and do the warning signs!

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2013, 01:15:28 pm »
Thanks mate, have it at home and also at work looks like I have night shift sorted . Hopefully no fire calls
Cheers Bart

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2013, 01:37:21 pm »
Good luck with it Bart - BTW, I also use the same method to make signs on the layout - the "Another train coming..." sign was made this way in the pictures above.  For on-layout signs I use matt laminate rather than gloss.

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2013, 08:14:48 am »
with regards to the catenary, would the us made product available here in Australia and the uk as well i believe called EZ line make a good contact wire. I have seen it used as fencing wire and telegraph wires and it looked great. very flexible but springs back to a tight line

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2013, 08:27:33 am »
That is what I intend to use on mine ;)

The good bit is that you can get the catenary down to a prototypical size, and it even comes in different colours so you can get that well-weathered green copper look which is what I've bought. Obviously it is too stretchy to allow the pantograph to actually run on it so I plan to glue the pan(s) at a set height and get the OHLE as close as possible :thumbsup:


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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2013, 09:00:31 am »
I have considered this material - and it might well be useful for the catenary and auxiliary wires (I am using a compound catenary).  The contact wire will be fishing line as the pans run very smoothly on this, and it can take a lot of tension, which is necessary to stop unrealistic deflections due to the strength of the pantograph spring.

My current approach though is to use 10thou steel wire for catenary and auxiliary - with soldered droppers (Neal!)  I am not sure of the diameter of the EZ-Line - is it 10 thou or thinner?  The other unknown is the droppers - I guess you would use thread and tie it - not sure how easy it would be to get a consistent effect.  I may get a sample and test it out before wiring up!

Thanks for the tip guys  :thankyousign:

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2013, 09:20:43 am »
Hmmmm......difficult to find on the internet - where did you get yours from Paul?

Cheers

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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
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Re: Deansmoor: Post-privatisation layout with catenary, on a door
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2013, 09:46:17 am »
Another  supplier option is as below:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EZ-Line-Green-003-Roll-100-/200405606271?pt=Model_Kit_US&hash=item2ea91adf7f

This guy also does sample packs and colours check his shop.
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