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Author Topic: GUVs, Super GUVs and Super BGs  (Read 422 times)

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Offline Jim Martin

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GUVs, Super GUVs and Super BGs
« on: April 22, 2018, 01:10:19 pm »
Am I right in thinking that Farish have never produced a Super GUV? I know they do / did a GUV in RES livery, but I don't think I've ever seen a Super GUV advertised anywhere.

How dimensionally accurate is the Poole GUV? I'm wondering if it would be a viable starting point for a Super GUV conversion.

Also, is the Super BG up to the same standards as the most recent Mark 1s? From what I've seen, the body has some relief at the tops of the roller shutters, so it's obviously not a printed body, but I recall seeing comments that it wasn't as well done as the current models.

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Re: GUVs, Super GUVs and Super BGs
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2018, 03:32:44 pm »
The SuperBG is somewhere between the two. It's not as detailed but it's not bad at all.

The old Poole mark 1 coaches are not that bad either as a base. The biggest problems are below the waterline where the entire underframe wants replacing on most of the coaches (I still wonder if Farish planned to do Bulleid coaches because the underframe they have is more like a Bulleid than a Mark 1 ;)).

Above the waterline door handles, wire handrails and the like make a big difference.

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Re: GUVs, Super GUVs and Super BGs
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2018, 10:52:04 pm »
Thanks. I'm planning to model one of the 4-vehicle van sets that were used on the Walsall-Aberdeen contract up to 2007. The Super BG sounds worth getting, so it'll be one of them plus three Super GUVs. I'm going to use the more recent GUV moulding because it has the vents in the body side and I won't have to change the underframe. I'll have to buy some Commonwealth bogies because all the Super GUVs I've found photos of online have them.

First, though, i have to build the Mk1 inspection saloon kit that's been in my stash for about three years!

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Re: GUVs, Super GUVs and Super BGs
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2018, 11:56:47 am »
Hi, all

Just a few more questions about the Poole GUV:

Is it a moulded transparent shell with the windows done by printing i.e. essentially the same as the Farish Mk1s after the style with window inserts but before the current Blue Riband separate glazing style?

Following on from the previous question, is the body of the Poole GUV moulded in a plastic which can be scribed without cracking?

Do all of the old style GUVs have pizza cutter wheels, or was there an intermediate stage with the old body moulding, but the finer wheels?

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Re: GUVs, Super GUVs and Super BGs
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2018, 12:47:30 pm »
The GUV is a printed clear bodyshell as per the later Poole era models.

A few batches came from China (Blue, RES, I/C, Maroon, Green) with better printing and chemically blackened wheels.


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Re: GUVs, Super GUVs and Super BGs
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2018, 03:23:51 pm »
hi this is the http://www.freightonrail.org.uk/CaseStudySecuricor.htm
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The 'Super BGs and GUVs' were conversions to Royal Mail specifications to enable the vans to carry 'York' containers. The modifications also included the fitting of high security roller shutter doors, steel non-slip floors and a segregated shunter's compartment.

The Super GUVs were first produced in 1993. The Super BGs were first produced in January 1995.

 

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