I have just sent GF a request to find out when the Scenecraft buses are likely to appear, as there is no info on the website. They looks nearly ready at the Toy Fair back in March but all has gone quiet since then.
Really wanting some Leyland Nationals and Atlanteans to bolster my N London Country fleet.
Also suggested that some UK N Gauge cars from the 70s, 80s and 90s might not go amiss.
Would love to see some modern image stuff from these guys:
Ford Transit Van (Network Rail livery and plain white)
Ford Focus (every 2.4 family seems to own one)
VW Golf/Polo
Renault Clio
Vauxhall Vectra
Citroen Saxo
BMW 5 series
Audi A6
Modern Buses
MAN lorries (general orange or yellow for council vehicles)
Modern emergency vehicles, Fire, Ambulance, Police
and finally a Caterham 7 in British Racing Green ;)......... :P
Have a look here at DMToys there are 17 pages of vechiles :)
http://www.en.dm-toys.de/liste/tags_en/pkw_en.html?page=1
Quote from: captainelectra on July 12, 2011, 04:49:20 PM
I have just sent GF a request to find out when the Scenecraft buses are likely to appear, as there is no info on the website. They looks nearly ready at the Toy Fair back in March but all has gone quiet since then.
Yep, they've certainly dragged their feet over these - they were displayed at last years TINGS.
H.
Slightly worryingly their website has been updated and the buses have now gone from being marked as 'on order' to being 'out of stock'. Does anyone know what has happened - did they come in for a few days and have now all been sold? Hattons don't appear to have any.
H.
Hattons have done some updates to delivery dates for the Scenecraft N gauge buses. The ones with the specific delivery date "on or after 19th August 2013" have been revised based on info. from Bachmann. Interestingly the new arrivals include two of the Guy Arab Utility double deckers. There are still some fanciful delivery dates on there but I am inclined to believe the 19th August date.
I was quite surprised to see GF roll out some buses. Oxford have a wide range of buses, and at 1:148 scale, produce relatively little else compared to the buses, coaches and trams.
Some 1970-80s cars would be very useful. We don't all model the 1940s GWR.
am I right in assuming that they will still be to the 'small' N scale rather than 1:148, or have they retooled to the proper scale ?
Quote from: Richey1977 on July 30, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
Some 1970-80s cars would be very useful.
Definitely. Decent 70s, 80s and 90s cars in 1:148 scale N gauge are in short supply.
Quote from: Richey1977 on July 30, 2013, 07:58:23 PM
We don't all model the 1940s GWR.
Sooooo true.
H.
Quote from: class37025 on July 30, 2013, 08:29:59 PM
am I right in assuming that they will still be to the 'small' N scale rather than 1:148, or have they retooled to the proper scale ?
I don't remember where I read it but no, they were not going to be retooled. Still 1:160.
It's a pity because they are quite nice. But I sent back the ones I purchased because I felt the size descrepancy was really quite noticable.
Matt
For anyone interested in the new buses and trucks from Oxford, there are some photos on pages 33 and 35 of the Model Collector magazine currently on sale (probably September 2013).
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 28, 2013, 08:50:16 PM
Hattons have done some updates to delivery dates for the Scenecraft N gauge buses. The ones with the specific delivery date "on or after 19th August 2013" have been revised based on info. from Bachmann. Interestingly the new arrivals include two of the Guy Arab Utility double deckers. There are still some fanciful delivery dates on there but I am inclined to believe the 19th August date.
My optimism about August 2013 delivery was misplaced. At TINGS Bachmann did not have a timescale for delivery quoting labour availability and production capacity as the source of delay. It was confirmed that all the items would be delivered but when is still unpredictable.
I did overhear someone from Bachmann having a good old moan that they can't get anything made on time - delivery dates keep getting put back further and further by the Chinese manufacturers!
This is what happens when everybody flocks to a cheap far-off country ::) Cheap for how much longer though? Not very long it seems ;)
Paul
Quote from: Sprintex on September 10, 2013, 08:43:48 AM
I did overhear someone from Bachmann having a good old moan that they can't get anything made on time - delivery dates keep getting put back further and further by the Chinese manufacturers!
Yep, that's been happening for some while now. Hornby have made the point very publically, and Dapol are also suffering (as well as Bachmann/Farish).
H.
Quote from: Sprintex on September 10, 2013, 08:43:48 AM
This is what happens when everybody flocks to a cheap far-off country ::) Cheap for how much longer though? Not very long it seems ;
Not quite that simple in the Bachmann case. Bachmann *is* a Chinese company, they just happen to have outsourced some design/marketing into the UK.
Chinese wages are rising rapidly, and its already pushing some low value production back into the UK or to other countries.
Dapol interestingly do have some moulding and pad printing capability in the UK while Peco mostly manufacture in the UK so are probably loving every minute of this.
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 10, 2013, 12:49:06 PM
Not quite that simple in the Bachmann case. Bachmann *is* a Chinese company,
Chinese owned (by Kader), but American founded, a German name (meaning someone living by a stream), Burmese registered and headquarters in Hong Kong. :)
H.
And making British trains of which some of the prototypes were designed or built abroad.
Simples!
How about some 70's motors ?
Cortina
Chevette
Fiesta
Escort
Austin 1100
MGB (hate them, but they were popular...)
Viva
Hillman Minx
Austin Maxi
etc...
I too would like to see plenty of 70's/80's vehicles. Hopefully someone will step up soon and fill the void. The GF buses look great but if they are the wrong size then they are no good to me.
Quote from: 47033 on September 11, 2013, 02:21:08 AM
I too would like to see plenty of 70's/80's vehicles.
Yep, the 70s, 80s and 90s are very poorly served by quality N gauge vehicles (the 40s, 50s and 60s have a far better range to choose from) and where there are some they tend to be high end luxury/sports cars. What is needed are some bog standard, ordinary and commonplace run-a-rounds from those three decades.
H.
Quote from: Sprintex on September 10, 2013, 08:43:48 AM
I did overhear someone from Bachmann having a good old moan that they can't get anything made on time - delivery dates keep getting put back further and further by the Chinese manufacturers!
Paul
Interesting- aren't Bachmann the only ones who own their factory? If they are having trouble it must be
vastly worse for everyone else- and yet all we as a modelling community seem to do is bellyache about things being late.......
Just a thought
Les
No the factory owns Bachmann. I imagine they prioritise their major product lines and markets, which would mean they UK got the dregs.
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 23, 2013, 03:29:13 PM
No the factory owns Bachmann. I imagine they prioritise their major product lines and markets, which would mean they UK got the dregs.
Alan
I experienced a similar situation years ago while working for a UK division of a Japanese Hi Fi manufacturer. The UK got their 'allocation' despite that being sold twice over. No amount of belly aching or anything else seemed to alter or improve that.
You either waited or went elsewhere. Not the best way to endear yourself to the end customer.
Dave G
Quote from: woodbury22uk on September 10, 2013, 08:07:21 AM
Quote from: woodbury22uk on July 28, 2013, 08:50:16 PM
Hattons have done some updates to delivery dates for the Scenecraft N gauge buses. The ones with the specific delivery date "on or after 19th August 2013" have been revised based on info. from Bachmann. Interestingly the new arrivals include two of the Guy Arab Utility double deckers. There are still some fanciful delivery dates on there but I am inclined to believe the 19th August date.
My optimism about August 2013 delivery was misplaced. At TINGS Bachmann did not have a timescale for delivery quoting labour availability and production capacity as the source of delay. It was confirmed that all the items would be delivered but when is still unpredictable.
In spite of what Colin told me at TINGS, the items from my original post turned up today at Rails, according to an email I just received! Looking forward to seeing what they have now achieved with the Guy Arab Utilities. Only 5 weeks after the August 19 date............
Seems to be a glitch on the Farish website. ALL the buses (bar one - Midland General VRT) are shown as in stock.
http://www.grahamfarish.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=scraftn&prod=2 (http://www.grahamfarish.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=scraftn&prod=2)
Thought the mods would have moved this to the DCC wiring thread...buses and buses :dunce:
Hi Gang , Sorry to report having had a good look I cannot see how to fit the Tomytex motor chassis for its bus system into the Leyland National :'( I wanted to have some bus fun but it would require over a 1 mm off chassis or body but glazing impinges even more and sadly wheelbase for the one I have is 3mm short - but this can be adjusted looking at how it is clipped together..
Ho hum, if only it had been 1:148
Robert
Hi with help of the Horsely fields crew (Ben!) I have now done a Dennis Dart -albeit in grey at this time. Off Data Jammers Shapeways shop got busstop and road gear on the way just need to sort some road markings and tidy off the road markings on the set and all will be well in play land.
Plenty of nerve and a look at other chassis from Tomix should see a national break cover !
great inspiration will have to look at DD stock as it were! I have a WM double somewhere in a box of bits.
Robert
The final 7 models from the 32 announced originally are now on their way to the UK!
There are photos of the production models on this site.
http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/ (http://www.britishmodelbuses.com/)
Click the News item in the left hand frame, and look at the news item for Thursday 3rd March 2016.
These were announced in the 2009 catalogue!
Good to see , I have now used mine as force perspective on Templedean.
tomix demonstrator mini layout worked well at Telford thanks to the Grange over sands gang - Robin! who lent some buses after mine went awol..
Hopefully if these sell Bachmann might be tempted to re tool or do a range suitable for front of house !
Robert
Quite a few British buses were exported after withdrawal for further service ... as Farish's models are made to 1:160 scale, you could include examples on sightseeing tours or used as an office or shed.
Brussels Airport Used ex-London Guy Arab Utility buses on airport tours in the 1950s. Finding suitable Belgian stock for a layout might be a challenge though.
Quote from: woodbury22uk on March 04, 2016, 06:25:27 PM
The final 7 models from the 32 announced originally are now on their way to the UK!
(...)
These were announced in the 2009 catalogue!
Typical Graham Farish buses... you wait for more than 6 years and 7 come along all at once.
Very British !!
Quote from: gc4946 on March 04, 2016, 08:00:19 PM
Quite a few British buses were exported after withdrawal for further service ... as Farish's models are made to 1:160 scale, you could include examples on sightseeing tours or used as an office or shed.
I was thinking about Farish buses in general, not about their latest releases.
There's a Flickr site about British buses in the USA covering both new and exported vehicles after withdrawal https://www.flickr.com/photos/buses-international/sets/72157630062770618/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/buses-international/sets/72157630062770618/)
No doubt there are similar sources covering exports to the rest of the world.
In terms of the types of vehicles Farish have produced, Bristol Lodekkas, VRs and Leyland Atlanteans in particular were exported after withdrawal - the images give plenty of inspiration for those wanting to customise their Farish models.
The problem for me is that the DM-Toys site only has a few model cars for the era I'm modelling: June 1945. Everything else is post war. Of the models available, several from Oxford are suitable but the Hitch and Mercedes cars could only appear as war booty! Is there a source of models of pre-war cars in 1:148? Roger
R Parker does some late pre war and early post war cars and commercials in simple kit form , mainly 3 part whie metal. They are easy to paint and assemble and a reasonably accurate